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I was in a(nother) proper pub before Christmas in the Midlands, and this Sikh dude walked in with a delivery - and one of the grizzled regulars asked him of he kept curry sandwiches under his turban!!!!


It was all in jest, of course, and crashingly brilliant - and I was reminded of how brilliant proper pubs were.


Someone talked about cliques earlier on.. well that's what these places are. A territorial clique. When you're in, you're ok - and it's all a bit of a laugh. You probably don't really even notice - and you cut old wotsit loads of slack because he doesn't mean any harm and all that.


I like proper pubs, a bit of non-threatening lairyness is fine and even the occasional nutter helps things along. The difference is that most of the good proper pubs are more full, and being full smooths over the rough edges.


But when it gets down a few core people with one or two who basically aren't particularly nice (unless you've decided to cut them loads of slack because you they're alright innit and don't mean any harm etc) who treat a pub like and extension of their front room - well that's when new people who pop in don't tend to come back - and suddenly the place has died on its arse.

Good points *Bob* and nice bit of irony shoved in as well. You're right of course. Admittedly, apart from when there is a big game on telly the pub is almost empty most of the time and has been dying on it's arse for quiet a few years now. And, not everyone wants to watch football and maybe put up with the odd unpleasant "character".

True story this: I was having an arvo pint outside the Clock House during the last embers of summer, when a dwarf baker - he couldn't have been more than three feet tall - hopped out of a delivery van and marched in with a tray of freshly baked bread on his shoulder. I turned to a table of drinkers next to me and said, "Here comes the short crust!"


One chap laughed, two didn't. In life, as on the forum, you can't please everybody. N.B. dwarf was out of ear shot, so no little people were harmed during the execution of an admittedly poor joke.


Otta: maybe they've started letting them ride the mobility scooters up to the bar now CPT's on its, erm, last legs?

Otta Wrote:

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> I have to say, I've never seen a mobility scooter

> parked outside the CPT.


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There's a guy who regularly drinks at The Actress who has a mobility scooter, don't know if he also goes to the CPT.

Harp!


It looks like they'll contract out the lease to a "creative landlord". They'll have to be to make that back st location work. There might be some traces of bohemian East Dulwich....but Brighton this ain't. They will need to be able to gauge the local crowd well to turn it round and make it commercially viable. And, with apologies to you 15 regulars out there, more of the same isn't going to do the job.

karter Wrote:

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> Lots of negative talk there. Plenty of punters

> around the area to make that location work. Long

> as it's competitive with a great service then it

> will be a destination to go to. Innit.



Funny, never seen you in there.

jimbo1964 Wrote:

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> I would say it's probably a good move. I like the

> CPT but unless there's football on it's pretty

> empty. As long as they keep the name and not any

> "Actress" nonsense I hope it's a success.


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The name of The Actress was suggested by somebody on this forum :)


It goes with The Bishop (geddit?)


We are lucky they didn't go with their original intention of calling it something like The Village Inn - I think it was :))


When people protested about that name, it was thrown open to suggestions.


The name of the CPT had already changed from The Crystal Palace Tavern, anyway.

I quite like the CPT as it is but as many of my friends don't, I rarely get to meet them in there, which is a shame as its our local.


Guess whoever is in the business has to do what it takes to stay in the game these days so best of luck to them. It would be nice to see the CPT spruced up a bit but not changed beyond all recognition. Serving food would be good as long as it wasn't over-priced and pretentious :)-D

The Villager would have been a really crap name. The Actress IS a really crap name (as is the Bishop, but at least that was part of a chess theme, with The Castle in Camberwell).


The Crystal Palace Tavern has been known as The CPT for a long long time, it was hardly a name change. (it is still called the crystal palace tavern officially).


I really really hope they make it a great place to go. I admit, that in the l;ast couple of years, myself and my friends have been more inclined to go elsewhere. However, I would still be very very sad to see it gutted beyond recognition.

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