CPZ: Proposed Controlled Parking in East Dulwich

[singalto]

Breadcrum45, they installed an electric charging point in my street in a place where cars won?t be able to park when the extended dropped curb double yellow lines are painted. Re a BB, I was turned down the first time but got it the second time. However I am not ?disabled enough for a space?!

[first mate]

In my experience applicants are put through the most incredble hoops to get a BB, rather like PIP assessment.

[intexasatthe moment]

Mine too first mate . I don't think anything about the process can be described as easy .I would be astonished if anything about it had become "much easier " .

[rendelharris]

Much easier for people with certain "hidden" conditions in the sense that they will at least now be considered rather than ruled out automatically. Just trying to help, I wasn't saying that the process is easy per se.

[intexasatthe moment]

I should have said that I realised you were trying to be helpful Rendel - I understand your point that a wider range of ppl can now be considered .

But I will still be astonished if anything about the process of getting a Blue Badge has become much easier .

Shall we not have a debate about the semantics of "much easier for ppl with hidden disabilties "v " much easier to apply for a BB " ?

[Earl Aelfheah]

Anyone know why there are no yellow lines on the corners with Crystal Palace road, but 10 metres (or however long they are) on all the quieter side streets? There seems to be no logic to this.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Not that I think it helps on any of the corners. Just seems to speed up traffic / encourage people to take corners without stopping.

[James Barber]

Hi rahrahrah,

Southwark Council have held back on installing double yellow lines on Crystal Palace Road as they will do this under cycle Quiet Way changes - they're going to install a LOT of double yellow lines, remove current islands from the road. It will make the road fast for motor vehicles and the changes were opposed by the majority of cyclists - they're the antithesis of making it a Quiet Way for cyclists.

[singalto]

I thought there had been a lot of opposition to the cycle route so are we to understand that it?s happening anyway?

[James Barber]

Yes, it is happening anyway. Labour councillors have apparently told local residents that they were elected on a manifesto May 2018 that included this - so the negative consultation results will be ignored. And really significantly the majority of cyclists are against these cycling measures. So lots of councillors who don't cycle know better than the majority of people who are cycling!

[Passiflora]

Very confusing James! Are you saying that cyclists rule in Southwark?

[singalto]

Why bother asking the residents if they are going to be ignored?

[intexasatthe moment]

CPZ affect on shops in Lordship Lane aired on BBC London 8.18am https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_london

[Siduhe]

intexasatthe moment Wrote:

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> CPZ affect on shops in Lordship Lane aired on BBC London 8.18am

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_london

Thanks for this - thought it was a fair summary by the owner of Roullier White, in particular acknowledging there are issues and if the majority are in favour of the scheme then it's something that business owners will need to deal with, but the response from Southwark Councillor Richard Livingston rather suggests that he sees the case for deterring commuter parking as overriding the other considerations.

[brontoscorpio]

we don't want controlled parking.

[Abe_froeman]

" So lots of councillors who don't cycle know better than the majority of people who are cycling!"

I think only one of them even lives in the area and the others seem to barely visit, maybe coming round once a month to promote their party?

[TheCat]

I have come very late to this party...and only now looked at the consultation properly. As a Beauval Road resident...which is NOT in the proposed zone by a whisker, all I can say is, if this proposal come is, our street is right on the frontline of the zone border, and is now f~cked....

[Passiflora]

Yes, sorry but you will get everybody that doesn't live in the area parking in your street. Not at the weekend but between around 7-9am on weekdays. If the zone does come into effect that is what will happen.

[first mate]

And then people will want CPZ in your street and so it goes on. S'wark knew the only way they could shoehorn in this revenue raising measure was by going street by street and creating a domino effect and then piling on as many additional pressures as they could devise (unnecessary mass double yellow lines, closing off streets etc..).

[mikeb]

Interesting that Townley Road is not in the zone. It is probably the local road most parked upon by non-residents, particularly schoolkids in their Fiat 500s.

[Jennys]

mikeb Wrote:

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> Interesting that Townley Road is not in the zone.

> It is probably the local road most parked upon by

> non-residents, particularly schoolkids in their

> Fiat 500s.

I thought from looking at the map that Townley Road is included. Can anyone confirm one way or the other. We live in Beauval Road and I am assuming we will get the cars from the Health Centre, dentist, and the staff and students from Alleyn?s school.

[Jennys]

I see there are two different maps, one seems to include Townley Road but the newer one doesn?t. Has the CPZ area been reduced?

[Passiflora]

Jennys Wrote:

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> mikeb Wrote:

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> > Interesting that Townley Road is not in the

> zone.

> > It is probably the local road most parked upon

> by

> > non-residents, particularly schoolkids in their

> > Fiat 500s.

>

>

> I thought from looking at the map that Townley

> Road is included. Can anyone confirm one way or

> the other. We live in Beauval Road and I am

> assuming we will get the cars from the Health

> Centre, dentist, and the staff and students from

> Alleyn?s school.

I'm surprised the roads leading off from Townley like Beauval are not already being parked on every morning. Village Way was brought into the CPZ parking zone P a few weeks ago. Zone P covers North Dulwich areas like Red Post Hill, Sunray Avenue, and all the roads surrounding the area, except Dulwich Village which is still a free for all parking area.

I think when the new health centre and the Charter East are up and running then a CPZ will be introduced.

[geh]

Interesting to see how speeds have increased alarmingly on Village Way now it?s devoid of cars!

[Passiflora]

It's always been a fast flowing area to cars with or without the CPZ!