Heathrow consultation and ED

[ThorNogson]

great - the more who respond the better. I think Londoners are gradually waking up to what's happening with Heathrow expansion.

?.and yes, the Northlands if you include generations of family from Yorkshire... ThorNogson was an intrepid adventurer, great friend and a soldier but quite nervous of actually fighting anyone.

[BB Camberwell]

Dear Fellow Campaigners and Plane Counters

Heathrow is consulting on changing its flight paths - we need to act

Please read this and respond by Monday 4th March

Make sure you have your say - otherwise we could have 25,000 more planes coming over us every year in a constant line.

Heathrow is changing its flight paths, whether or not it gets a third runway. These changes could make life even worse for residents across South East London or bring some improvement to the unrelenting plane noise we face every day and night.

Plane Hell Action has produced a guide to help you navigate the consultation

The consultation covers 4 things:

Noise

More flights

Night Flights

Airport Expansion

How to respond

1. email your comments to: [email protected]

2. complete the online survey: https://www.heathrowconsultation.com/

The consultation can be confusing, so use our guide, which takes you through the questions

https://planehellaction.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/FutureAirspaceConsultationReponseGuide.pdf

Some key points to put in your own words

? Protect our quality of life: enjoyment of our homes, gardens and health is paramount above economic benefits to airlines.

? Keep noise levels within latest WHO guidelines: 40dB at night/shoulder (11pm - 6am); & 45dB during the day (6am - 11pm)

? Do not concentrate flight paths- spread the effects of aviation noise, not concentrate them as is currently wrongly interpreted by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), Air Traffic Controllers (NATS) and, in this consultation, Heathrow.

? Ban night flights in accordance with World Health Organisation's report that 8 hours minimum sleep is required for good health

? Stop double overflight from Heathrow and London City; no community should be affected by air traffic below 5000ft to more than one airport

? Do not lift the interim proposed cap on flights (25,000 more on top of the current capped 480,000).

Let your MP and councillors know what you think

Copy your views to your MP - https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/mps/

And your Council's Environment Department - https://www.directory.londoncouncils.gov.uk

and your Ward Councillor - this is the only way your representatives will know what you feel about the proposed changes and will be better able to support your local environment and community, if necessary challenging Government policy and/or Heathrow.

Deadline for returning your response is 11.55pm on Monday 4 March 2019

Please share this message and, for those not aware of how the effects of living under a flight path, ask them to watch this short video:

With best wishes

Bridget Bell

[AylwardS]

ThorNorgson & BBCamberwell thank you for that information. I?d seen signs about the Heathrow consultation but didn?t know where to start when I looked at the site, these will help

[BB Camberwell]

In case it makes for an easier read I am attaching the information in a Word document which should enable you to click through the links. Kind regards, Bridget

[ThorNogson]

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Vicky Foxcroft MP (vickyfoxcroft)

On Thursday the 28th of February at 6:30pm I will be chairing a Q&A session with @HeathrowAirport at the Honor Oak Community Centre. This will be a chance to question Heathrow representatives about their future plans for the airport. Full details; vickyfoxcroft.org.uk/in-lewisham-de?

[MoysieC]

Another plea for as many people as possible to submit comments to the Heathrow consultation and ask for respite from flights over our area. The deadline is Monday 4 March. See BB Camberwell?s post on 16 February above for relevant links.

Even if you are not personally disturbed by the noise currently, it will get worse as the arrivals/ departures to Heathrow will nearly double.

Due to stacking planes we are overflown by noisy, relatively low flying Heathrow planes from 4am to 11.30pm every day when it is a westerly wind, which is at least 70% of the time. We are also overflown by City airport planes the remaining 30% of the time as there is no joined up thinking by the Government on the impact of flight paths. This is a valuable opportunity to make the case for the provision of respite for our area. Some parts of West London currently get respite so it can be done.

[edcam]

It's not really that bad. There are so many other things that are more important to worry about. You live in London, there are planes.

[BB Camberwell]

HUNDREDS & THOUSANDS many at the decibel level of an industrial hoover from 4.30am - 11/11.30pm - Have you responded to the Heathrow Consultation?

This is a quick reminder to respond to Heathrow's Future Airspace Operations consultation, if you have not already done so. The deadline is Monday 4 March,one week away.

Make sure you have your say - otherwise we could have 25,000 more planes coming over us every year in a constant line.

Some key points to put in your own words

? Protect our quality of life: enjoyment of our homes, gardens and health is paramount above economic benefits to airlines.

? Cease the Westerly Preference that results in even noisier arrivals over London, especially SE London that should be having a break from the nose-to-tail noise of concentrated queues of arrivals;

? 'No' to Managed Preference

? Ban night flights in accordance with World Health Organisation's report that 8 hours minimum sleep is required for good health

? Do not introduce Performance Based Navigation (PBN = satnav for planes) which will drive all planes along just a very few flight paths for all operational hours, currently 19 hours: unethical, unjust and bad for health as well as increasing emissions.

? No plane arriving 13 - 18 miles from Heathrow (Southwark/Lambeth/Lewisham/Greenwich/Wandsworth/Clapham) should fly below 4000 ft.

? Keep noise levels within latest WHO guidelines: 40dB at night/shoulder (11pm ? 6am); & 45dB during the day (6am ? 11pm)

? Stop double overflight from Heathrow and London City; no community should be affected by air traffic below 5000ft to more than one airport

? Do not lift the cap on flights (25,000 more on top of the current capped 480,000).

Let your MP and councillors know what you think.

Copy your views to your MP - https://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/mps/

And your Council's Environment Department whose remit covers noise & emissions pollution - https://www.directory.londoncouncils.gov.uk

And your Ward Councillor - see above, directory.londoncouncils.

This is the only way our representatives will know what we feel about the proposed changes and will be better able to support our local environment and community, if necessary challenging Government policy and/or Heathrow

Our easy-to-follow guidance, advice and the link to the consultation can be found here: https://planehellaction.org.uk/heathrow-airspace-future-operations-response-guide/

If completing the online consultation fills you with dread you can write up your own response, covering all the sections of Noise, Night Flights, Flight Paths, More Flights and all other comments you would like to make and

email it to: [email protected] or post it to: FREEPOST LHR AFO CONSULTATION

We encourage you to respond now.

[bels123]

Deadline is tomorrow

[FallingDownMoment]

(Negative) comments submitted, thanks. I believe the deadline is Monday night, so there's still time to read up on the proposals and issues.

[BB Camberwell]

11.55pm to be precise. The online form is hideous to handle, hard to save and come back to, and does not allow you to copy your finished response. If you wish to keep a copy, or to send a copy to your MP, your Council's Environment Dept, and Grant Shapps MP (and Chair of the APPG for General Aviation [[email protected]]/ proposing to put CAA under the spotlight for their lack of working within the democratic process and no accountability to Parliament) we suggest that you write your answers in a Word document and cut and paste your replies into the online form. Otherwise write an email to [email protected]

Meanwhile, today's Sunday Times has a report on the proposed flightpaths. No mention of SE London in any part of it. Too large to attach and suggest you look at Plane Hell Action's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/Plane-Hell-458079924532695/ where it has been posted.

[Applespider]

Just wanted to say thank for the links to action groups; it made it a lot easier to work out what the consultation meant for SE London and easier to work out how to put it in writing.