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[New Nexus]

Bit more C.T.

In what can only be seen as raising the rhetoric bar on the timing, scale, and seriousness of the Iran 'situation', Kommersant is reporting that "Tehran has one last chance" as US Secretary of State Clinton asks her Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov to relay the message to Iranian leaders. If this 'last chance' is wasted an attack will happen in months as diplomats noted that the probability of an Israel/US attack on Iran is now a specific 'when' instead of an indefinite 'if'. The sentiment is best summarized by a quote from inside the meeting "The invasion will happen before year?s end. The Israelis are de facto blackmailing Obama. They?ve put him in this interesting position ? either he supports the war or loses the support of the Jewish lobby". Russian diplomats, as Russia Today points out, criticized the 'last chance' rhetoric as unprofessional suggesting "those tempted to use military force should restrain themselves - a war will not solve any problems, but create a million new ones."

ZH

[El Pibe]

Personally I think Obama should call their bluff.

Let them do it and give them only limited financial/military support for the fallout (ie supply them with replacement interceptor missiles) and leave them flapping in the wind diplomatically.

Current Israeli administration has been seriously taking the proverbial out to Obama tme and again (ie carefully timed announcements of expanded settlement construction set to derail fragile talks).

It'd be nothing more than the commuppance they deserve.

This is just politics though NN, surely this is far too vanilla for your superior esoteric knowledge.

[woodrot]

New Nexus Wrote:

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> Bit more C.T.

>

> In what can only be seen as raising the rhetoric

> bar on the timing, scale, and seriousness of the

> Iran 'situation', Kommersant is reporting that

> "Tehran has one last chance" as US Secretary of

> State Clinton asks her Russian counterpart Sergei

> Lavrov to relay the message to Iranian leaders. If

> this 'last chance' is wasted an attack will happen

> in months as diplomats noted that the probability

> of an Israel/US attack on Iran is now a specific

> 'when' instead of an indefinite 'if'. The

> sentiment is best summarized by a quote from

> inside the meeting "The invasion will happen

> before year?s end. The Israelis are de facto

> blackmailing Obama. They?ve put him in this

> interesting position ? either he supports the war

> or loses the support of the Jewish lobby". Russian

> diplomats, as Russia Today points out, criticized

> the 'last chance' rhetoric as unprofessional

> suggesting "those tempted to use military force

> should restrain themselves - a war will not solve

> any problems, but create a million new ones."

>

> ZH

Obv C&P but fair play for posting it - RT is not an unbiased show though, as I recently found out after watching it over several days during a recent visit to a 'stan

on a pedantic level, The "Jewish lobby" is a bit of a misnomer for the US groups, much of the recent pro Israel lobbying is pushed by Christian fundamantalist nutters in the US of Ass - they want the "Rapture" ( google this vile shite if you have to ) and see Israel vs its neighbours as the best way to get Jebus back on earth to slay the non believers and lift the true believers to the Pearly Gates.

If there is a God, then I would suggest he may take a dim view of these hateful fuckpigs when they arrive and give them a one way scheduled Eticket to Lucifer and his army of pointy stick wielding demons.

[El Pibe]

That was the point i was going to make.

This actual special relationship between US and Israel has little to do with the Jewish vote.

American Jews are increasingly dissillusioned with the ever hardening stance of Israel over the past 15 years and will only move further away. (I was in New york on Israel's independence day last year when there was a big march of american jews celebrating. THe most predominant banners were ones asking for peace and understanding and many actually carried palestinian falgs to the very vocal disgust of some older people I witnessed).

Whilst AIPAC still has some clout in the fundraising stakes this actually comes much more from, as woodrot says, the christian fundamentalists who have become a powerful force in US politics.

Actually there was a nice little Adam Curtis article about it the other day called who would god vote for.

[New Nexus]

Here is one of the ?special relationship? between the US and Israel, that is still going strong.

http://www.corbettreport.com/corbett-report-radio-090-terror-by-proxy-and-food-world-order/

[ldcaca]

Chemtrail Geo-engineering will Save the Planet

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http://occupycorporatism.com/obamas-science-adviser-says-chemtrails-will-save-the-planet/

[El Pibe]

wow!

THat site is bonkers.

I love this sentence.

"The National Institute of Health has found that geo-engineering is directly responsible for neurotoxins found in human blood, lungs; as well as causing a whole host of neurotoxic conditions such as multiple sclerosis."

It hasn't. If you click the link it goes to a hypothesis about "high level contamination by natural and industrial sources" of various heavy metals being implicated as a cause in clusters of MS.

It certainly doesn't mention geo-engineering and is predicated on the "[consideration] that man-made climate change is a lie perpetrated onto the world?s populations by the global Elite and the UN?s IPCC. Scientists worldwide have come to the fact that the sun is heating up not only our Earth, but all the planets in our solar system".

Doesn't bother to mention which ones or how we should differentiate scientists from being in or outside the nefarious conspiracy "designed to coerce Capitol Hill and the American public of ?truths? surmised by unscientific data".

Bonkers frankly.

The rest of the article follows suit and there are some nice links to an important message from David Icke

[breadbin]

http://www.sovereignindependentuk.co.uk/2012/05/06/uk-terrorist-attack-birmingham/

[Huguenot]

Oh dear.

[El Pibe]

got to love the links on there.

This one's a peach

http://www.sovereignindependentuk.co.uk/2012/05/10/21-goals-of-the-illuminati-and-the-committee-of-300/

Plans going well then......

[Huguenot]

Extraordinary - breadbin, do you actually believe this stuff?

Really? Honestly? Putting the bravado to one side etc.?

[New Nexus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

[El Pibe]

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/

undistributed middle

appeal to fear

appeal to authority

appeal to ignorance

appeal to wishful thinking

affirming the consequent

composition

burden of proof

begging the question

confirmation bias

wow NN, you're on a roll!!!

[New Nexus]

Why are you conversing with a bot.

Don?t you ever get tired of being wrong all the time.

[El Pibe]

I'm actually trialling my python PibeBot to see if I can emulate myself.

"Don?t you ever get tired of being wrong all the time."

You sound like my dad, he's got pathological issues too ;)

[New Nexus]

I would emulate your bot, but unfortunately I have no yammering sphincter settings.

[El Pibe]

Is that because it broke and only allows 'non sequitur' or 'peurile rhetort' settings?

[New Nexus]

Imodium could help you with that problem your having i.e. involuntary verbal discharge

[El Pibe]

quod erat demonstrandum

[Loz]

"Say, do you have any psychological problems?"

[????]

The Drawing Room? Play Room's far better.... as it's been one for ages

[Huguenot]

To return to the original thread...

NN, in response to breadbin's suggestions that there was a terrorist attack on Birmingham, you posted something about cloud seeding.

What was the connection?

[New Nexus]

Supplied information on cloud seeding. Period.

Please feel free to read into that what ever you want.

[Huguenot]

Are you trying to be cryptic to appear mystically wise, or because you don't actually know why you did it?

Are you suggesting that there actually was a terrorist attack by cloud on Birmingham that, cunningly disguised as water vapour, tragically failed to kill anyone or get the front page headlines?

[New Nexus]

Which part of ?Supplied information on cloud seeding. Period.? did you not understand.