Woman died after Muslim nurse refused to help as he was praying

[Mick Mac]

Irrespective of Jelly's take on Islam generally, there is a point here that religion should never be allowed to interfere with someone's work obligations, especially in the taxpayer funded service sector.

[Otta]

Absolutely agree with that point.

[MGolden]

Me too. It's shocking when people who have gone into a profession with caring at it's core appear not to care.

[jelly]

@ Mick Mac

Irrespective of my declared distrust of Islam, that was the point I've been trying to make. In any case, I'm relieved to learn that at least someone on here has an IQ above room temperature.

[Otta]

A god that demands prayer before mercy is a god unworthy of love. Slimeball religeon

Clearly that was the point you were trying to make. How could I have missed it?

[Razors]

Sheep. PC sheep. Out pops 1, and predictably out pop the others. And then sheep No 2 backtracks then sheep No 1 does.

Stop attacking Jelly, and try to think for yourselves, and stop doing what you have been told to do. Sheesh.

[El Pibe]

Do not feed the trolls.

[Otta]

Baaaaa

[Santerme]

jelly Wrote:

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> Bullshit.

>

> It's a violent and oppressive religion that breeds

> a stone age mentality among its followers who seem

> to object to being assimilated into their adoptive

> culture. It's the antithesis of western society.

> Sorry you can't (or refuse) to accept that.

No it isn't and doesn't

[civilservant]

on another thread, jelly excused the Catholic church from association with the behaviour of child-abusing Catholic clergy thus:

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> To be fair, Jews are just as guilty as Muslims of practicing genital mutilation. ... Cristians (sic) - especially

> Catholics, of which I am - are taking an underhand bashing on the strength of their faith's unfortunate association

> with a few very bad apples among a far greater number of good.

not just racist and disreputable, but hypocritical as well

don't waste your time on her

[silverfox]

civilservant Wrote:

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> on another thread, jelly excused the Catholic

> church from association with the behaviour of

> child-abusing Catholic clergy thus:

> -------------------------

> > To be fair, Jews are just as guilty as Muslims

> of practicing genital mutilation. ... Cristians

> (sic) - especially

> > Catholics, of which I am - are taking an

> underhand bashing on the strength of their faith's

> unfortunate association

> > with a few very bad apples among a far greater

> number of good.

>

> not just racist and disreputable, but hypocritical

> as well

> don't waste your time on her

Civilservant, your name implies a degree of intelligence so why not address the absurdity of the headline of The Telegraph article rather than having another cheap swipe at the Catholic Church.

You have fallen into the lynch mob mentality of this thread. Only MGolden, as far as I can see, has asked any sensible questions. I'm not here to defend Jelly or paedophile priests, but The report in The Telegraph raises serious questions.

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/9162051/Woman-died-after-Muslim-nurse-refused-to-help-as-he-was-praying.html)

It's not clear to me why the lady's sad death was the fault of Abdul Bhutto. It's obvious the care home didn't have adequate procedures in place.

Where is the direct link here? It's easy to pick on the Muslim boy no matter how negligent he was - saves the care home a big insurance pay out no doubt.

Jelly hasn't grasped the significance of what he or she is railing against, but nor have most of the lynch mob attacking Jelly and starting related ambiguous threads.

[civilservant]

silverfox, I am sorry if you think that I'm running with a lynch mob here

I can't answer for the Daily Telegraph article - indeed it is one of a piece with the kind of mischief-making that that paper and others like it make a living from.

My problem, and the one that is relevant to this thread, is that ignorant people then take up that argument and run with it. Jelly didn't have to start this thread, after all, and use this story to damn a whole religion on the basis of one bad apple (and we don't know the truth of the story - only what the DT and the DM chose to report).

I am pointing out that Jelly has, on another thread, attempted to defuse criticism of a group to which she claims to belong, using a 'few bad apples' argument. This is hypocrisy.

I have not got a problem with the Catholic church. I too believe that you can't damn a whole group because of the behaviour of a few. But when people start using special pleading for their own, and deny the same gair hearing to others, I feel very angry.

Jelly, you are a disgrace

[Otta]

There is no lynch mob.

[Parkdrive]

jelly Wrote:

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> @ Mick Mac

>

> Irrespective of my declared distrust of Islam,

> that was the point I've been trying to make. In

> any case, I'm relieved to learn that at least

> someone on here has an IQ above room temperature.

And that someone with IQ greater that their shoe isn't you, you're an offensive , hateful poison spouting bigot that should be bounced off this forum.

[Alan Medic]

If there is a god, then there can only be one. So Catholics, Muslims and others all pray to the same chap. Shame some don't realise that what they have in common is greater that what makes them different.