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Seriously, no one is suggesting England looked great, in some areas they were awful, but it was a great match. Doesn't mean they're gonna win anything.


Was surprised that Guy Mobray (sp?) of the BBC gave Gerrard top score (of the starters) in his player ratings. I love Stevie G, and didn't think he did badly (UDT and his best mate Jah will no doubt tell us otherwise), but star man?!?!


Ashley Young needs to up his game a lot.


Carroll deserves credit for doing his job, but will no doubt make way for Rooney.


Welbeck is starting to look like he belongs at this level.


Lets not forget though, Sweden are average, and we gave them 2 goals.

The two goals were down to poor marking. Shocking really at that level.


Jah knows his football and so do I. No surprise in our agreement. Anyway, I thought he was your drinking buddy, Otta.


Johnson caught my eye and he didn't put a foot wrong throughout the game. Walcott was the inspired substitute who saved England's embarrassment.

Carroll could have scored more if he was given more crosses. Watching the exchange between Carroll and Young wasn't a very good sign. Young has the quality to supply crosses but seemed reluctant to do so and seemed to choose the wrong option each time.


I thought Gerrard had a mixed game. No surprise about Guy Mobray selecting a big name. It's often the case when journalists or commentators panders to non-footballing experts.

After the shambles of the last World Cup, it was great just to see In-ger-land win a game in a competetive competition again.

So the big questions for the Ukraine match are...will Hodgson revert back to the more defensive minded system he employed against France, or last night's more offensive approach?

And who will drop out to accommodate Rooney?

Personally, I would like us to attack Ukraine, who cares if it's another nailbiting 3-2 win, let's try and win the group and avoid Spain.

I thought Carroll played as well as he could, but he didn't really get the service because we don't have out and out wingers, his goal came from a deep midfield pass from Gerrard. So I'd start with Rooney and Welbeck because of their familiarity at club level. Young had a good first half against France, but has disappointed since. Again it might be better to start with him because he will know Rooney's and Welbeck's game better. Although Walcott changed the game last night, can he do that from the off, not frequently enough IMO, I think he would make for a better impact sub like last night. Other than that I think the team picks itself, but Hodgson might decide that 3 games in 9 days will catch up with some of the players, and fresh legs will be needed, especially as we will be playing back in the heat of Donetsk.

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> I thought Gerrard had a mixed game. No surprise

> about Guy Mobray selecting a big name. It's often

> the case when journalists or commentators panders

> to non-footballing experts.


Mowbray picked Welbeck as his MOTM for the France game.

Quite right too, along with Johnson they have been our best players over the two games.

I'm really pleased to see Johnson playing so well, especially as many questioned his selection (which was fair enough), but he's shown he deserves his place.


Agree Rooney, Welbeck and Young should start next match, with Carroll to come on if we need a change.


Theo definitely best as an impact sub, when opposition are starting to get tired legs.

Otta Wrote:

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> Agree Rooney, Welbeck and Young should start next

> match, with Carroll to come on if we need a

> change.


I expected some 'criticism' picking a Man Utd front 3, but I genuinely think because we have a new manager who is trying to implement new systems, it's important we have players who already know each other's games inside out.

Last night's match was always going to be a bit of a Premiership slugfest, so Carroll was a good call by Hodgson. Still, I couldn't help sniggering when Terry got swatted like a fly a couple of times by Ibrahimovic :-)

red devil Wrote:

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> Undisputedtruth Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

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>

> > I thought Gerrard had a mixed game. No surprise

> > about Guy Mobray selecting a big name. It's

> often

> > the case when journalists or commentators

> panders

> > to non-footballing experts.

>

> Mowbray picked Welbeck as his MOTM for the France

> game.

> Quite right too, along with Johnson they have been

> our best players over the two games.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18462232


Actually was Walcott who got the highest rating with 9. Gerrard & Welbeck received the same score of 8.


I'd like to see Ox and Walcott start the next game as I think Ukraine look weak in the full back areas. Definitely put Carroll back on the bench and decide whether to play Welbeck or Young with Rooney.



Terry looked like someone on a couple of occasions who was trying to run waist high in water in a swimming pool. I suspect he is actually a weak link in the defence now. As for Ibrahimovic, he reminded of a wild horse who was difficult to stop. The shame on him was he seemed completely selfish and didn't trust his team mates by passing the ball to them.

Was reading on BBC News that Sweden feel they were the better team and "deserved" a win.


Now, I don't watch much football, but to the layman, it looked like England scored three pretty decent goals, while the two that Sweden scored were from free kicks, given away due to dirty tackles. As bad as England were for long periods of the game, I'm not sure how you could say Sweden "deserved" victory.

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