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Sue

Sue

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sunshine77 Wrote:

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> Totally incorrect. Don?t post rumour Alice, deal

> in facts



It isn't clear what post you are responding to! Nor is it clear in your subsequent posts!


The "quote this message" option is a helpful one in this respect :)

Sue

Sue

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rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Whilst many high streets are boarded up / in

> serious decline, East Dulwich is arguing over a

> whether or not they like a mural.



It's the East Dulwich Forum.


The mural is a fair subject for discussion, I would say :)

Sue

Sue

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DulwichFox Wrote:

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> With regards to the Mural I think enough has been

> said.

>

> Not worthy of continual discussion.



What do you consider "worthy of continual discussion", then, Dulwich Fox?


This is a forum. People discuss things on it. Like local issues. Like this one.

DulwichFox

DulwichFox

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Sue Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > With regards to the Mural I think enough has

> been

> > said.

> >

> > Not worthy of continual discussion.

>

>

> What do you consider "worthy of continual

> discussion", then, Dulwich Fox?

>

> This is a forum. People discuss things on it. Like

> local issues. Like this one.


Well As far as I am concerned I personally have no more to say on the matter.

Or do you want to make it compulsory like Voting. ?

Sue

Sue

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DulwichFox Wrote:

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>

> Well As far as I am concerned I personally have no

> more to say on the matter.

> Or do you want to make it compulsory like Voting.

> ?



Eh?!


It didn't occur to you to just stop posting on the thread if you "personally" had no more to say then?


:)) :)) :))

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Sue

Sue

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alice Wrote:

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> It?s southwark CGS funded



It now (or maybe always did) says at the bottom right that it is Cleaner Greener Safer funded.


Can anybody explain to me how a painted wall is making North Cross Road cleaner, greener or safer?


And if not, how on earth did the money to paint the wall come out of this particular pot of council money?

Sue

Sue

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alice Wrote:

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> Got an email with all the successful CGS funding

> applications. Very interesting



Care to share it on here?!


Or post a link to where we can see these successful applications?


Because I would be extremely interested to see whether they actually meet the criteria for CGS funding (though it's a long time since I was involved in CGS projects, so possibly things have changed .....)

intexasatthe moment

intexasatthe moment

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I'd like to know what the criteria is for CGS funding .


It all seems bonkers to me - presumably the mural is providing a "cleaner " vision of the wall ? Couldn't they just have increased the provision of cloth bags* ? We could put them over our heads, instantly removing all visual clutter and simultaneously filtering air pollution. In fact as we'd no longer be able to see anything and would be stranded at home this would reduce demand for consumer tat and traffic movement plus help the NHS by cutting demand for beds as we quietly fade away at home .


I suppose the ED Harris Academy gets ?17,000 for air purification works because they have professional advice at their fingertips and were on the ball when it came to applying .


It seems odd to me that Southwark gives money from a heavily slashed and constrained budget to a school funded by central government and having other central government revenue sources (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/school-capital-funding ) available for this type of thing .


* I'll leave it to someone else to say "what cloth bags ? " .

Oh ,whoops I haven't .

worldwiser

worldwiser

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Harris got the ?17k because levels of pollution around the school are at illegal levels. Governors at the school took matters into their own hands to ensure the kids don't have to breathe such filthy air in their classrooms. It wasn't even enough: the money had to be supplemented with a sizeable chunk of cash fundraised through many events. It shouldn't be necessary to find money this way but you go through whichever door is open to you.
nxjen

nxjen

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Though there is a precedent for a mural funded by CGS funds in Kennington, that particular wall attracted a great deal of graffiti and the painting of the mural itself was carried out as a community project. The North Cross Road Committee who applied for the funding is a consortium of independent shops and market traders and the benefit is purely commercial with no cleaner, greener and safety contribution to the community. It should not have received funding from the CGS budget.
first mate

first mate

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worldwiser Wrote:

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> Harris got the ?17k because levels of pollution

> around the school are at illegal levels. Governors

> at the school took matters into their own hands to

> ensure the kids don't have to breathe such filthy

> air in their classrooms. It wasn't even enough:

> the money had to be supplemented with a sizeable

> chunk of cash fundraised through many events. It

> shouldn't be necessary to find money this way but

> you go through whichever door is open to you.



And then you have the whole Goose Green Tree Amigos fiasco, with a diesel generator bang next door to the children's playground- where another chunk of CGS funding was spent to increase screening from car pollution. Astonishing example of Southwark being all over the place in terms of decision making.

intexasatthe moment

intexasatthe moment

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worldwiser - I'm aware that pupils in a school built next to a main road in London will be breathing in polluted air .


The question in my mind is why cash strapped Southwark is handing over ?17,000 when it appears that funding for capital spending on improvement is available from Central Government .

pk

pk

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intexasatthe moment Wrote:

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> it appears that funding for capital spending on improvement

> is available from Central Government .


There isn?t in practice anywhere near enough


In reality all (state) schools are under ever increasing financial pressures


Obviously

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