TheCat Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Sephiroth Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> like I keep saying - Cat knows. He KNOWS he's> @#$%& it. I'll bet he has friends and family who> tell him exactly that as well. But easier to come> on here and fight with people like me> > Years we've been saying Northern Ireland is a> problem. Years we have been saying trade, farming > and fishing will be screwed. Not a care in the> world from Cat- oh but now it's actually real and> actually happening??? "It's the nasty EU punishing> us! We need a better deal!!!!"> > 4 years of brexit, 2 subsequent elections, 2> subsequent Tory leaders, several extensions - all> to prepare and hammer out a better deal - amounted> to zilch> > No self-awareness. No responsibility. Still thinks> it'll be worth it> > Where is this better deal going to come from? What> will it look like? What form will it take? What> will UK give up to get better terms and access?> Who holds all the cards? Not the UKChange the record mate.The only one on here 'fighting' is you. I'm discussing an issue. It seems you spend quite a lot of your time discussing me. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1488358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Perhaps it should be rephrased as 'take a hard line on the UK' in it is as much to show other member states the folly of leaving. It's still a folly but we just have to get used to it (some would say make the best job of it). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1488415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Well the current situation is unsustainable. So what does ?making the best of it? actually mean beyond a comforting phrase? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1488421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 ? I'm discussing an issue?Very much to the contrary - you are ignoring the issue and instead picking fights with the eu and remainders when all that has happened is that you got what you voted for The issues are the Irish border, trade volumes massively down, businesss drilling like flies. All predicted and now they are happening you aren?t talking about them The solution is simple - align yourself with and possibly join Single market and customs union. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1488431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowy Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 And this doesn?t bode well:https://www.rha.uk.net/getmedia/a17d600a-13f1-4034-b15e-ba021df01bd0/The-Rt-Hon-Michael-Gove-MP-1st-February-2021.pdf.aspx Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1488478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diable rouge Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Right in the sweet spot...The inability to trade freely within your own country (ie between Britain and N.Ireland) is a far more humiliating and stark loss of sovereignty than anything the UK experienced as a member of the EU. Ironically, it is a consequence of Brexit - or of the Brexit deal Johnson chose. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1488635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Gove's got a plan though - and it involves ignoring questions and compiling blacklistshttps://inews.co.uk/news/media/freedom-of-information-act-michael-goves-office-cover-up-claims-shows-transparency-more-important-than-ever-861918 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1488650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 "Given the concerns about supply chains, jobs, prices etc, this continued obsession about getting the vaccine a couple of weeks early is flimsy at best and just downright weird. In no way does it constitute any kind of genuine benefit"This from December stands up well I think (now that 6 EU countries have overtaken UK with double-jab rates) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1529168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Liz truss is the most popular minister in the government however.She must be favorite to take over if Boris loses it with Rishi. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1529325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsworth Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 JohnL Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Liz truss is the most popular minister in the> government however.> > She must be favorite to take over if Boris loses> it with Rishi.God forbid. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1529358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keano77 Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share Posted November 9, 2021 Have I gone mad or just misread the following?Border checks to enforce air quality rules on solid fuelFuel crossing from Northern Ireland will be inspected to enforce new air quality rules from next year, Eamon Ryan has said???Given the links between burning of solid fuels and the health effects of air pollution, as well as the potential for market distortion for businesses properly adhering to the regulations, increased multi-agency enforcement and inspections of cross-border fuel movements will be required,? Ryan, the environment minister, said. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/border-checks-to-enforce-air-quality-rules-on-solid-fuel-lwx8vfbrbHas the Irish government thought this one through? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1547567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1553078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 This from a year ago, and some of the responses, hold up pretty well I thinkhttps://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,2093860,2174204#msg-2174204 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1553079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 "But to say Boris is a joke is a bit laughable really. "Still love this line - even when the joke is on us Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1553090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 keano77 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Have I gone mad or just misread the following?> > Border checks to enforce air quality rules on> solid fuel> > Fuel crossing from Northern Ireland will be> inspected to enforce new air quality rules from> next year, Eamon Ryan has said?> > ??Given the links between burning of solid fuels> and the health effects of air pollution, as well> as the potential for market distortion for> businesses properly adhering to the regulations,> increased multi-agency enforcement and inspections> of cross-border fuel movements will be required,?> Ryan, the environment minister, said. > > https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/border-checks-t> o-enforce-air-quality-rules-on-solid-fuel-lwx8vfbr> b> > Has the Irish government thought this one through?Not sure if there?s a problem in this?We?ve increased our own Uk based regs on such things, and rightly so.All wood must be kiln dried below 20% and DEFRA cert.Other fuels must pass the DEFRA smokeless fuel test. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1553096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diable rouge Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 This from a year ago, and some of the responses, hold up pretty well I thinkAs does this from two years ago to the day, the crux being if people don't care about being lied to, they'll continue to do it...https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,2076809,2082607#msg-2082607 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/247713-eu-trade-talks-thread/page/52/#findComment-1553122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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