Loz Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 "A teenager has been arrested by police investigating abuse of Team GB diver Tom Daley on Twitter."I'm sorry, but has someone passed a law making it illegal to be a complete a***hole? Why the hell are the police involved in this? Whatever happened to free speech in this country and where will it end? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 We don't have free speech and the UK and never have, and long may that reign.However, not sure that this is a proportionate or appropriate response - and I'm not well enough versed in UK law to know if that requirement is enshrined within it. It's certainly trotted out regularly enough for it to appear to be a foundation tenet of policing.Still, I don't know how much of it is true either, and it doesn't hurt to put the willies up gobshite arrogant teenagers. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I thought direct death threats have always been subject to investigations, no? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Was that what happened? No mention in the press?Maybe Omert?? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I've seen the tweets but can't remember verbatim. Have a look at @glinner timeline from yesterday evening ishGood version of chronology here as well but can't see if it contains all tweetshttp://www.archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/rileyy69-aka-reece-of-weymouth-and.html?m=1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Also worth pointing out he has a history of doing this and various people have previously requested twitter take actionNot sure arrest is the right way forward but clearly something wrong with the kid Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 Oh, agreed that something needs to be done about the kid, but it's all a bit too close to the Nottingham airport tweet dumbness for my liking. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 The airport tweet was quite different tho. That was stupid because it wasn't directed in any way towards the "subject"By sending messages repeatedly and offensively directly to your target(s).... That's different in my book. Once you address someone directly (in life, print or social media) you have responsibilities and expectations. If I started posting threats through your mailbox for long enough you'd call the police Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulwichgirl2 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 You can be guilty of an assault by threatening people (but not actually touching). I presume the offensive tweet falls into that category if the police are involved. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I think there is a way to deal specifically with threatening behaviour online via already existing harassment laws.....Twitter could monitor itself but like facebook is a victim of it's own success....i.e. to much traffic to monitor and so has to be reactive to complaint rather than monitoring.Several celebrities have deactivated twitter accounts because of mornic bullies with nothing better to do... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I seem to remember reading that the tweet was something like "you let your dad down" (his father died last year). Nasty and spiteful, but not threatening. Not sure how it's illegal.Unfortunately if celebrities want to use social media, they are going to have to learn to ignore the idiots. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 sorry Jeremy - in case youdidn't see it before... did you read the link I posted above?ok the "death threats" weren't send directly to Daley, but to other people directly and plenty of faux "everyone deserves a second chance" when people got on his backAnd I agree with the blogger who is using the episode of an example of "twitter mobs", and as I said earlier maybe* arresting him isn't best way forward BUT he is a fine example of the the type of idot that Admin on here has to deal with. This guy has been reported by many people long before his Daley tweets and is basically pissing in the pool. I can't stand the whole "oh I'm really sorry I'll behave nexttime" bullshit from these guys. Chance after chance after chance is just abused* I say maybe because I actually think this guy could be so disturbed, it won't do much harm to have him in for questioning. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 One thing on that blog SJ posted I thoroughly disagree with is the last line, which suggests Daley caused the ongoing incident by retweeting the original message about his father. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I think that last line is more suggesting that everyone (Nottingham airport, Tom Daley, you, me) ignore tweets like this so they don't get the attention they craveI'm undecided if I agree with that strategy to be honest. But nor do I think the line is blaming Daley for causing the storm per se Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-564998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Loz Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> has someone passed a law making it> illegal to be a complete a***hole? someone passed a law (in 1998) that made it an offence to send indecent, offensive or threatening communications and i believe that the investigation here was into such a 'malicious communication' Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-565003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgley Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 He just a little fuck that all, let?s hope the police deals with him appropriately I am really tired of people like that where their lives are screwed up and they think its ok to inflict it on others. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-565078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Sooo... just what's the diffrence between this and the bile Frankie Boyle tweets?Does nothing but enforce the impression I have that twitter is the the biggest pile of poo on the internet. Can't discuss anything serious such as politics as the limits leave no room for any discussion of any sort just vacouus sloganeering, passed on jokes, and petty spats between tedious celebrities. The perfect metaphor for our dumbed down culture.As I've said, I've yet to read a Tweet that's made me think better of a tweeter or even just 'think'. Most are just innane or a bit embarrasing tbh. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-565545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 "The perfect metaphor for our dumbed down culture"Nicely summed up and echoes my sentiments about it.Cue an enraged macgowhbabnh..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-565556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie1997 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Twitter can be a pile of poo but it can be equally useful. Again, I think it depends on what you expect from it and how you engage. Same as any social networking thing really. I don't think anything that can be said in 140 characters is designed to make you think but if the person 'tweeting' is interesting/worthwhile, they can often point you to interesting and educational links that you'd otherwise not be aware of. In this case it, it looked like the teenager 'backed down' but by then, there was a twitter mob baying for his blood if I read SJ's article correctly. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-565607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Not really a fan of teenagers 'backing down' after they've been abusive as an excuse. Appreciate that girls may think differently.Girls do that often. Confuse an apology with a good head flushing down the toilet. ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/24827-tom-daley-tweet/#findComment-565795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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