writing on my bmw

[Sue]

Oh dear.

Don't know where to start with addressing that lot, so I'm not even going to try.

Just about every sentence could have a whole article written in response.

:(

[DulwichFox]

Sue Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Oh dear.

>

> Don't know where to start with addressing that

> lot, so I'm not even going to try.

>

> Just about every sentence could have a whole

> article written in response.

>

> :(

I know. You just cannot argue with facts.

Foxy

[DJKillaQueen]

We've had graffiti problems from time to time and the reason why Southwark Council have such a robust policy (and they really do) is because if graffiti isn't cleared up, it encourages others to do it. Mnay youngsters who write graffiti don't see it as anything major (although technically it is criminal damage) and nor are they often the career criminals some would like to think they are. In my neighbourhood we remove graffiti as soon as it appears, either ourselves or have the council do it. Removing graffiti from a car though is a different challenge.

It is fair to say that there is an issue with the way that young repeat offenders are treated especially in respect to more serious crimes like burglary and robbery, where custodial sentences are a lat resort after a long line of repeat offending.

[Chillaxed]

It's not 'technically criminal damage', it's crminal damage full-stop. And many of the major offenders are not teenagers, they are 'men' with such small appendages they feel they need to spunk their tag all over the city to compensate.

[uncleglen]

Nununoolio- Southwark used to have a policy about bonfires not being allowed at certain times and they used to send someone out if there was a problem, and they used to have a nice green leaflet in several languages- but the last time I phoned about a problem of bonfires the person on the other end of the phone more or less said they wouldn't do anything and she wasn't aware of the strict policy about bonfires- I just assumed that the same slack attitude now prevails about the grafitti- and given the acceptance of 'some types of grafitti' around the Borough, the post by Fox did not seem beyond the realms of probability to me.

[pommie]

my friend had his work van damaged by graffiti and he saw a CPO and they gave him a reference number. Apparently they maybe able to find the culprits through their tag name etc so they need to keep records etc.

[DJKillaQueen]

Well funding cuts have had a noticeable impact on some types of 'policing' to be fair. Things like the noise pollution team etc are a result of that and unfortunately we are now in a climate of too many incidents and too few resources to deal with all of them. And do any of us want to pay more tax to make up the shortfall?

So in that climate, any department is going to focus on those incidents that might lead to a successful conclusion. Repeat offences are more likely to have more resources focussed on them (so it's important to still report everything) but we can't expect the council or police etc to solve everything.

[DulwichFox]

The Only thing that Southwark Council are strict on that they actually deal with is Parking Fines.

They Never fail there. 100%

But that makes them Money...

Anything else is not so vigorously dealt with.

That costs them money. Money we all pay in our Council Tax to deal with such problems.

Fox.

Fox.

[nununoolio]

DulwichFox Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> The Only thing that Southwark Council are strict

> on that they actually deal with is Parking Fines.

> They Never fail there. 100%

A quick bit of online research would reveal you are only about 15% right there. Trouble is most people don't put up a fight and just cough up.

As regards the type of person that causes this sort of criminal damage in the East Dulwich and Peckham Rye area, I would say that dope smoking, skateboarding, wannabe gangster/rebellious middle class teenage males would fit the bill in many cases. Time to start looking a lot closer to home I think.

[Chillaxed]

As I've previously posted, the only factor common to these idiots is a micro-penis.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Was the writing on your car, or on your BMW? ;-)

I'm sorry you've fallen victim to such a mindless act of vandalism. There are some shtbags out there. Hope you get it fixed up ok.

[IngridB]

Stik had to get permission from Southwark council to paint a wall in Dulwich Park. He got it very quickly and easily. Southwark council obviously draw a distinction between graffiti and street art or murals which they consider Stik's work to be.

A 15 minute film has been made of Stik's work in Dulwich and its link to Dulwich Picture Gallery. It is being shown for the first time upstairs at the EDT on 20 Sept at The Bigger Picture Film Club's September screening. More info here http://www.thebiggerpic.co.uk/

Stik will be there if you want to meet him.