Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Today I went to do my grocery shop and wanting to support the smaller independent traders as well as being mindful to eat as fresh food as possible in this time I went to the shops on Lordship Lane.

and the lack of social distancing inside left me leaving empty handed and upset.

Moxons;

was great no more than two in the shop and a wide enough aisle for me and my fellow shopper to purchase and browse safely.

William Rose;

3 allowed in the shop at any time and marked spacing in the queue outside-HOWEVER inside they'd roped off the area in front of the counters leaving a very narrow space for myself and my other shoppers to circumnavigate in-in fact any form of social distancing between customers was pretty impossible it was in fact very crowded-suggestion-perhaps they should do 1-in-1-out policy with no more than 1 shopper (2 if in same household) in at any time, granted it would mean a longer queue outside but for heavens sakes its not like most of us have to rush to be anywhere!

SMBS: (I think thats correct name?)

no social distancing or queue system in place outside-due to the till area being right near the door where fresh produce is displayed there was a real bottleneck created where it was impossible to buy from that display and keep a distance..I glanced beyond and shop looked crowded so I left empty handed.

Suggestion-no more than 3 in shop at any time with queuing in place outside?

Organic Village (again unsure name correct the one nearish Costa)

Utter shambles..no queuing no limit to people inside narrow aisles with staff filling shelves people pushing past impossible to keep any decent form of distance especially as other customers in there just seemed so unaware (or careless) of any form of spacial awareness.-again I didn't even venture to back of the shop where they had what I needed because it was too cramped and full with people browsing and milling about.

As I stated at the beginning of this thread I REALLY REALLY want to support our smaller shops and I use my grocery shop as part of my daily exercise (killing two birds with one stone so to speak!) But I came away feeling anxious and empty handed.

Numbers do need to be limited in shops with limited space within the aisles.

And also other customers please try not to 'zone out' when within these smaller shops just maintain a distance

these are extraordinary times and we all need to be a little more mindful of each other.

thank you.

Couldn't agree more.

I've wanted to shop in both SMBS and Organic Village recently, but each time I've tried, they've been too busy and I've walked away.

Larger shops are still problematic too, we all dutifully queue 2 metres apart outside, but once inside, everyone seems to mill around and not be aware of keeping their distance.

It's also not really a time for browsing, just make a list, grab what you need and leave. Although I do appreciate many people are probably shopping for friends/relatives too, so it can be quite a task finding everything.

I went to organic village yesterday and they were operating a strict entry system and directing people around a one way system as the shop was so small. Customers were also keeping well clear of each other.


Could down to be who is in charge that day I think. totally agree that the small shops are problematic and need to keep on the ball.

Yes, I also turned away from SMBS yesterday as well, for the same reason. Organic Village was better as hardly anyone in there, and I think they were monitoring numbers but not very clear and no one way system at that point.


Was very reassured by stricter rules limiting numbers at Lloyd's Pharmacy and Luca's, amongst others. BUT, especially surprised that Sogim pharmacy had apparently NO restrictions, esp given its very small size. Really needed to get in there but felt very uncomfortable with two others milling about waiting for a prescription (could they not have waited outside??). I did say that at the time but got no reaction.

Now is not the time for middle-class English nimby=pimbyism. Just tell people - politely - to help everyone by staying apart 6 feet, etc. Lives and livelihoods - perhaps those of the recalcitrant shop owner and his/her family - depend on it. There was too much of "I'll do what I want and sod everyone else" in Britain before this sad and dangerous situation; I hope this will change for the better.

Well said.

Although sometimes I think it?s not do much entitlement as typical London don?t wanna talk to / acknowledge strangers.


Nigello Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Now is not the time for middle-class English

> nimby=pimbyism. Just tell people - politely - to

> help everyone by staying apart 6 feet, etc. Lives

> and livelihoods - perhaps those of the

> recalcitrant shop owner and his/her family -

> depend on it. There was too much of "I'll do what

> I want and sod everyone else" in Britain before

> this sad and dangerous situation; I hope this will

> change for the better.

Nigello Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Now is not the time for middle-class English

> nimby=pimbyism. Just tell people - politely - to

> help everyone by staying apart 6 feet, etc. Lives

> and livelihoods - perhaps those of the

> recalcitrant shop owner and his/her family -

> depend on it. There was too much of "I'll do what

> I want and sod everyone else" in Britain before

> this sad and dangerous situation; I hope this will

> change for the better.


Unfortunately when one does point out people are too close they can become really defensive and rude-a woman shopping in a small shop I was in asked me to move out the way so she could get to a shelf she needed to get to while I was in line for the till (this was in Dulwich village ) in order to move clear of the shelves I would have had to be about 2ft behind the person in front of me at the till-I pointed out I was keeping the recommended distance and she got a bit huffy with me about it "its only for 2 seconds!!!" I ignored her and stayed put but of course she was then stood waiting about a foot away from me...this shop allowed 3 customers in at a time and we were THE three. she, me the guy at the till paying.

though I am happy to point out to people that they are too damn close for comfort I also feel that people need to become more specially aware and hang back a moment

The government has been promoting the Stay at home message-I think they need to also really push the importance of social distancing INSIDE as well as OUTSIDE I find more often than not in the past week its inside shops that this caution gets thrown to the wind and surely one is at an even bigger risk in a small enclosed space than in a park or pavement.

If you?re queuing for any shop on LL you may manage 2m between you and person behind / in front of you, but passers by are breezing past like there is ZERO distance required. I?ve had a couple actually bump into me !!

I?d probably now say ?if this was a serious situation where we really had to keep our distance...?, but...

siousxiesue Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> siousxiesue Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Does anyone know if Farmer's have a system in

> > place? Getting a bit desperate!

>

> Or can anyone recommend a small grocery shop

> keeping social distancing strictly?


Farmers had kind of distancing effort in place

Not an independent but small Sainsbury up at the Plough, staff please keep your distance!


I know one guy in there to say hello (who has a sketchy idea of personal space normally anyway)and he came right up to me and stood at the self checkout next to mine, and said Hello Doctor, because I had latex gloves on! FFS stay away from the customers.

Totally agree about Sainsburys Local at the Plough, it's a nightmare!

The security guy on the door is just wondering around, moving baskets around, not keeping his distance. At the checkout, they open tills next to each other, so there's no proper distance between customers.

Also, people taking their kids into the shop - why, you idiots! It's not the kids' fault, but they don't keep their distance.

They should have two in, two out, no more than that. Maybe then the queues would deter the teenagers (who are the worst for keeping proper distances).

KidKruger Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> "William rose, mons and moxtons all have a great

> queuing process."

>

> William Rose doesn't inside the shop! The only

> decent distancing is done by those queueing

> outside if you're lucky.


Yes Agree William Rose is great outside very organised but allowing more than 1 customer in there at a time means it all goes to pieces-I really hope they limit 1 person (or an adult with child ) in the shop at a time.

I actually won't return until they do-the last time I went it was actually scary me and another guy just bumping into each other within a really small area

This may sound facetious but actually it isn't. Just act deranged so they keep away. I'd suggest shouting in a Liverpudlian accent (I'm from the Wirral and doing so terrifies southerners) but shouting is really not terribly socially aware at the moment. Too many people aren't taking this virus seriously. If it is transferable via aerosolised droplets then merely talking can infect people 30 feet away, that's 9 metres. I queued on Friday outside M and S on LL and was aghast at the stupidity of people walking aka brushing past me. If you feel a need to shove someone or be rude, then do so. If you said "I may be infected, but maybe I don't know it yet" you are telling the truth, it's Schroedinger's virus. We MUST assume that we are infected and so are they. Just watching BBC news in theatre recovery units turned into ICUs tonight was terrifying and I spent 6 years as a hospital equipment sales rep selling recovery room monitoring so I'm not generally concerned. I sure as hell am now. Be rude, be obnoxious, be safe.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Gone to the better hunting grounds during this local ongoing dry spell.
    • The Dreamliner has an impeccable service history, you are more likely to get mugged on the way to the airport than having any issue with your flight, that's how safe it is!  Have a great trip.
    • Maybe. Does that kill grass? If so, possibly the same dog that has left its poo outside my house - pretty sure it's not fox poo.
    • Here you are, intexasatthemoment (you seem to have been in Texas for a very long time!) We went to three of the recommended places yesterday,  as they were all in the same road (just near Wallington)  and I needed to give the car a run to avoid another slap on the wrist from my garage (and another new battery). Here's my findings. BARNES Parking We thought we would go here first as it was the earliest to close on a Sunday (3pm). There was no apparent entrance or anywhere to park. One notice said do not park on grass verge, and another one said staff cars only! Flittons was opposite but I'd already passed the entrance, so I had to drive down the road, turn round at the next available place (covered in signs saying do not park here) and park in Flittons car park! Plants Barnes  specialise in hardy perennials, so that was basically what they had, but an excellent selection, and many more unusual plants (or at least, plants you probably wouldn't find in a garden centre), eg Corydalis,  lots of different varieties of Epimediums, Trollius, some lovely Phygelius, lots of different ferns). The plants were divided into sections according to whether they needed sun or shade or could cope with both. They had a particularly good selection of  shade loving plants. There was really useful information above  each group of plants, which meant you didn't have to look at individual labels. All the plants looked in good health and  very well cared for. They don't produce a printed catalogue, but they  said their plant list was online (I haven't looked yet). I assume most of  the plants they have at any one time are when it's their flowering season (if they flower). I wasn't intending to buy anything, though was very tempted, but I'd definitely go here again once I've sorted out my overgrown garden. Other Stuff Don't think they sell pots, compost, etc. No cafe/tea room and I didn't see a loo, but Flittons is just over the road. FLITTONS  Parking Easy to park Plants Sorry, but mostly terrible. There was one section with vegetables and the rest was flowering plants. There was a general feeling of delapidation. Some of what was on display was actually dead (surely it would only take a minute to remove dead plants) and a lot of the rest was very poorly maintained, eg gone to seed, weedy, apparently unwatered, or with a lot of dead leaves. There was a notice asking for volunteers to work there, so I can only assume they can't afford to pay staff. Other stuff There was a notice to a play barn (?) saying invited people only, so I think they must host kids' parties or something. They redeemed themselves with a cosy little cafe with savoury stuff, nice cakes, iced chai and oat milk, and a loo. Also a selection of books and CDs on sale for charity. If you want an Andrews Sisters CD, you can find one here. There is a small shop with gift shop type stuff and a display of the history of Flittons, which apparently is family owned since the sixties (I think it was). I suspect that the arrival of Dobbies down the road must have greatly affected Flittons' fortunes, which is sad. DOBBIES  Parking Easy in theory once you had navigated a rather narrow entrance, but it was very busy so it took a while to find a space. Plants  Lots of plants, well maintained but I imagine their turnover is high. Lots of nice bedding plants for hanging baskets, window boxes etc  to cater for all tastes (ie some of it wasn't mine, but fine if you like those horrid little begonias (my opinion only) but they did have some nice (in my opinion) stuff as well. I was tempted but decided to buy from North Cross Road market. Fair selection of climbers, various different Clematis etc. I'd be happy to buy plants from here. The prices seemed reasonable and they were in good condition. Other stuff  It's a big garden centre with all that entails these days, so a large area selling garden furniture and storage, tools, animal collars, pots, all the usual stuff you would expect. Very helpful staff. There's a cafe which we didn't check out, charging points for electric cars, a Waitrose (no idea how big, we didn't look). Only on our way out did we see that there was a drive through "express section" for compost etc, which was annoying as I wanted compost and hadn't seen any anywhere,  but I was getting tired by that time. Just Down the Road A ten minute drive away is Wilderness Island, a nature reserve in Carshalton, which is well worth a visit. We heard eleven different kinds of bird (according to Merlin) and saw a Kingfisher flying down the tiny river!
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...