Prime Minister moved to Intensive Care - non political

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

*parks DeLorean*

[uncleglen]

Peckhampam Wrote:

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> Uncleglen-I hope very much that Boris gets well.

> But I hate everything he stands for, certainly do

> not love him, and am amazed you can blithely say

> "the majority of us love you." Any evidence?

Will two terms as London mayor and a general Election landslide do?

and Quids I misread your 'bien pensants' as 'bien peasants'....certainly aspiring peasants!

[Blah Blah]

Oh behave Uncleglen. Boris did not get a majority of votes cast at the general election. A third of the electorate did not vote at all. Of 49 million eligible votes, he got 13,491,087. That's about 25% of eligible voters. Stop embarrassing yourself with ridiculous claims. It is only the nuances of our FPTP electoral system that enables a party to get a majority of seats with less than 50% of the votes cast. Things would look rather different if we had PR. A coalition would have easily kept the Tories out of government.

[Clutterqueen]

I thought this was meant to be a non-political thread as started on 6th April.

[Peckhampam]

Uncleglen

What Blah blah said

[JohnL]

Evening Standard reports Boris doing reasonably well. That's not brilliant then - this thing comes at you again just as you feel a little better.

Standard is showing the trajectory (curve) somewhere in it's rolling updates and Spain, France, UK and Italy are almost identical shapes.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/coronavirus-uk-live-latest-updates-boris-johnson-covid19-a4410766.html

[Jeremy]

Who are these people? "????"? "StraferJack"?

[Blah Blah]

He will stay in intensive care either way until he is clear of the virus now. That is the protocol. There is an upside to this though. He will come out of hospital as a PM who has a full understanding of not only the dangers of this virus, but also of how hard NHS staff are working and what they are risking in terms of their own health and well being (both mental and physical). And this may well have a bearing (in a positive way) on government policy moving forward.

[Sephiroth]

who knows, "Jeremy"?

But I'm straferjack/seanmacgabhann (spartacus?)

[dbboy]

I set this up clearly as a NON POLITICAL thread.

If you which to discuss the election, Brexit or some other political topic, i.e a new labour Leader or whatever else politically, go set up a separate thread. Or otherwise stick to the topic, it's really not hard to comprehend, use that thing between your ears man, commonly called a brain.

[edcam]

To be fair, it's difficult to discuss a Prime Minister without there being a political angle.

I wouldn't wish his predicament on anyone. I just hope that we can turn a corner in the treatment and prevention of Covid-19 for the sake of everyone.

dbboy Wrote:

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> I set this up clearly as a NON POLITICAL thread.

>

> If you which to discuss the election, Brexit or

> some other political topic, i.e a new labour

> Leader or whatever else politically, go set up a

> separate thread. Or otherwise stick to the topic,

> it's really not hard to comprehend, use that thing

> between your ears man, commonly called a brain.

[malumbu]

???? Wrote:

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> QED

Class - use of Latin and French, an aspiring Rees-Mogg in our midst.

Et tu, Brute?

Qu'ils mangent de la brioche

[dbboy]

Try John Bercow - straight talking and tells it as it IS.

[diable rouge]

dbboy Wrote:

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> I set this up clearly as a NON POLITICAL thread.

Actually you didn't, you only added the Non-Political edit yesterday.

And as edcam highlights, hard to separate a politician from politics, especially one who was active in previous Govs during the last 10 years of austerity, overseeing serious underfunding of the NHS, the very people trying to save his life now. I hope he pulls through so he and his mob can be held accountable...

[dbboy]

Actually that's wrong, I included Non Political in the main body of the thread when I initially created it on 6th April and THEN added Non Political into the title yesterday, 8th April.

[paulu197]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> Oh behave Uncleglen. Boris did not get a majority

> of votes cast at the general election. A third of

> the electorate did not vote at all. Of 49 million

> eligible votes, he got 13,491,087. That's about

> 25% of eligible voters. Stop embarrassing yourself

> with ridiculous claims. It is only the nuances of

> our FPTP electoral system that enables a party to

> get a majority of seats with less than 50% of the

> votes cast. Things would look rather different if

> we had PR. A coalition would have easily kept the

> Tories out of government.

Great point blahblah. Really demonstrates also how much the Labor party are loathed too theb

[paulu197]

Stupid fat fingers... Should say then

[DulwichFox]

Back on Topic.

Boris Johnson has been moved out of Intensive care and back on to a Ward at St. Thomas'

DulwichFox

[dbboy]

Thanks for the update, I hope he makes a good recovery.

It will be something that he'll never forget. I hope this experience will in the future, now him having seen the front line of the NHS in full operation, it will aid increased funding for what staff do so diligently day in day out.

- From someone who literally owes their life to the NHS.

[Plough Man]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> Oh behave Uncleglen. Boris did not get a majority

> of votes cast at the general election. A third of

> the electorate did not vote at all. Of 49 million

> eligible votes, he got 13,491,087. That's about

> 25% of eligible voters. Stop embarrassing yourself

> with ridiculous claims. It is only the nuances of

> our FPTP electoral system that enables a party to

> get a majority of seats with less than 50% of the

> votes cast. Things would look rather different if

> we had PR. A coalition would have easily kept the

> Tories out of government.

@BB

I have much respect for your medical knowledge and analytical ability BUT surely your credibility is diminished by the put downs you tend to default to frequently - such as "Oh behave Uncleglen" and "Stop embarrassing yourself with ridiculous claims".

Such comments are provocative, aggressive and are purely intended to stifle debate. Debate is enhanced by mutual respect and willingness give due consideration to the other persons views -without resorting to personal attacks.

[edcam]

This would make sense if it weren't for the fact that unless you are very wealthy and have no morals, voting Tory is like shooting yourself in the head. Granted, the alternatives haven't exactly been thrilling lately.

Plough Man Wrote:

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> Blah Blah Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Oh behave Uncleglen. Boris did not get a

> majority

> > of votes cast at the general election. A third

> of

> > the electorate did not vote at all. Of 49

> million

> > eligible votes, he got 13,491,087. That's about

> > 25% of eligible voters. Stop embarrassing

> yourself

> > with ridiculous claims. It is only the nuances

> of

> > our FPTP electoral system that enables a party

> to

> > get a majority of seats with less than 50% of

> the

> > votes cast. Things would look rather different

> if

> > we had PR. A coalition would have easily kept

> the

> > Tories out of government.

> @BB

> I have much respect for your medical knowledge and

> analytical ability BUT surely your credibility is

> diminished by the put downs you tend to default to

> frequently - such as "Oh behave Uncleglen" and

> "Stop embarrassing yourself with ridiculous

> claims".

>

> Such comments are provocative, aggressive and are

> purely intended to stifle debate. Debate is

> enhanced by mutual respect and willingness give

> due consideration to the other persons views

> -without resorting to personal attacks.

[????]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Who are these people? "????"? "StraferJack"?

Lockdown so boring that I checked in for an argument. But this place so bad nowadays that the only people worth arguing with are the same ones as 13 years ago

[FineWhine]

Johnson removed from critical career (oops where's spellchecker when you need it)

[Jules-and-Boo]

It would be political suicide for any government to berate or abuse the NHS after this.

The government's behaviour has angered people for long enough but I think now there would be riots if they carried on as they have before.

[Blah Blah]

Point taken Plough Man. Hard to not be pompous with Uncleglen though, given his disdain for anyone outside of his right wing political views.