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I know I've referred to it before. I know it's petty. BUT, it's pissing me off so it deserves a whole thread of its own.


Yesterday on "NCIS" (Ducky you should know better).


Tonight on "Monroe".


Too many times in recent months, so now I shall log the mismentions (new word: I like it) on here.


Together we can change the world.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:

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> Jacks09, it should be pronounced 'diss' as in "dis

> me and I'll shiv you."

>

> 'sect' as in "Christadelphians are a dubious

> sect".



I do love a phonetically driven syllabic bisection.

I too am from the past and proud of it.


I was brought up to say diss-ect as in dis-respect. But I've noticed that some people - particularly medics - say dye-SECT. And they pronounce cervical "cerv-EYE-cal" instead of "SER-vical".


My own bugbear is people who say 'har-ASS-ment' instead of 'HAR-assment'.

dulwichgirl2 Wrote:

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> Where do we stand on, "I was sat in the cafe when

> xyz happened"?

> It is starting to gain traction....


If you are talking about the actions of, for example, the waiter who assisted you when xyz suddenly occurred, then fine; otherwise you need to be horse-whipped.*


*Unless you are a citizen of the USA in which case it is attractively endearing and carries an air of the devil-may-care one has come to love about you.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:

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> I know I've referred to it before. I know it's

> petty. BUT, it's pissing me off so it deserves a

> whole thread of its own.

>

> Yesterday on "NCIS" (Ducky you should know

> better).

>

> Tonight on "Monroe".

>

> Too many times in recent months, so now I shall

> log the mismentions (new word: I like it) on

> here.

>

> Together we can change the world.


Ducky is parroting a script written in the United States, so he says dyesect, as do most people over there.


Same with skedjule. A US of A way to say it. You would be dysecting too many people to count and might feature on your own episode of NCIS were you to join the military in some form or other.

Urban Dictionary:


A shiv is a weapon made out of an commonplace object often in prison, also perhaps the origin of which is as a acronym a Self Honed Implement of Violence (SHIV).


Also used as a verb 'to shiv' as in my example.


Could also use a shiv to dissect someone (see what I did?)

From Urban Dictionary:

SHIV

1) Slang for a knife or any other small cutting/stabbing weapon, often homemade; think inmates with sharpened toothbrushes.

2) The act of utilising the aforementioned small cutting/stabbing weapon to cut/stab someone.

???? Wrote:

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> Ditto "look" before a statement by every fooking

> politician since Obama started it. Not

> pronounciation, just dull unimaginativr ubiquity.


Tony Blair mastered that one. It's supposedly a rhetorical device to get most people's attention as we tend to think 'visually'. Other speakers begin statements with "Listen,..." but apparently that's much less effective.


Jack Straw had (and probably still has) an annoying way of prefacing everything he says with "Well,...", which not only makes his interviewer sound stupid, but also he speaks it without a full 'L' sound. So it's something like "Wew". Really bloody irritating.


And don't get me started on young Miliband's glo'al stops...


edt for sp.

Looo tenant. I find myself saying that even though I know none. I never understood how one could get Leff from Lieu. And since American films are or were the prevalent cultural source for many of us, we stick to skedules for Lootenants.


I agree about the misuse of "Hopefully", and I do try and say "I hope that.." instead. But people who end their sentences with so... Grrrrrr



So...

PeckhamRose Wrote:

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> But people

> who end their sentences with so... Grrrrrr

>

>

> So...


I take it you are differentiating between 'so' and 'so...' (or the even more irritating 'so-o...' with a musical inflection).


In some parts of Ireland the former is an indispensibe way of communicating when one has reached the end of a sentence.


Jayz have ye never been to Cork so?

Like, no. So....

And don't call me Jay z. (!)


Back to the OP. I think the first time I heard the word dissect was at school when we were told to DYE sect a mouse. I refused. And not because I was waiting for the teacher to say DISS sect, but because I thought it was a wrong thing to do. But as the teacher had said DYE sect, it would not have occurred to me that she had mispronounced it! I have never heard anyone say DISSect, but since I respect PGC I shall consider using that pronunciation from now on. So...

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