Overcrowding at Memsaab Lordship Lane

[Alan Medic]

The number of scientists coming out in this thread is reassuring for those of us who previously got our information elsewhere.

[Clutterqueen]

I met up with a lovely friend at Johnnie's cafe today on Lordship Lane. Been going there for around 2 years.

Not been there for around 6 months due to commitments and the covid situation but they were fantastic.

Social distancing meaasures were in place and the staff were fantastic.

[Blah Blah]

There is government advice, based on core science. Either businesses and customers follow it or they don't.

Ok, so you are the one that takes the risk and goes to the packed restaurant. Only it is not only your risk is it?

One person has covid in that restaurant and two people catch it. Only they don't know they've caught it for at least a week by which time they have infected four other people. Four other people who thought better of ever risking going to a packed restaurant.

That is how epidemics spread, that is exponential growth.

[rachp]

eastdulwichlocal99 Wrote:

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> You go to a restaurant, you know you are taking a

> risk - clearly the ?10/head saving was enough for

> you to disregard the risk (what price to pay for

> covid...?) yet you then have the audacity to

> complain about it after the event.

>

> Get a takeaway and stop complaining - we should be

> supporting our local businesses not putting them

> down.

Presumably our local businesses won't benefit if the R rate goes up and we go into another lockdown?

[seenbeen]

How do you even know if a takeaway is safe? What goes on in the kitchens?

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/ms-supplier-sandwich-factory-closure-coronavirus-a4530681.html

[Nigello]

The onus is on the business owner to follow the rules. It is not optional. It is not for the customer to ?take a chance?. If is impossible to remove all hazards vis-?-vis coronavirus transmission but sticking to physical distancing rules, etc. is a help and restaurants, shops etc. must comply with the regulations.

[JohnL]

Yeslovewhatcanigetu Wrote:

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> I?m glad there are more people starting to see

> sense and taking a more balanced view. The chances

> of getting Covid in Memsaab are pretty tiny, and

> if you?re worried about it, agree that you?re

> probably better off getting a takeaway.

We're a country that follows the rules - If you start thinking you're above the rules then you may as well forget health and safety too.

[Yeslovewhatcanigetu]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Yeslovewhatcanigetu Wrote:

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> -----

> > I?m glad there are more people starting to see

> > sense and taking a more balanced view. The

> chances

> > of getting Covid in Memsaab are pretty tiny,

> and

> > if you?re worried about it, agree that you?re

> > probably better off getting a takeaway.

>

> We're a country that follows the rules - If you

> start thinking you're above the rules then you may

> as well forget health and safety too.

I had a curry in Memsaab a few weeks back and managed to follow the rules, as did everyone else who was eating there. I wasn?t suggesting people should break them. I just think that constantly overplaying the risks is getting tiresome and reporting small businesses doing their best to survive in difficult circumstances is unfair.

[JohnL]

LOL whan I was young I thought everyone the age I am now was crazy for wanting to follow the rules :)

[ken78]

it's nice to go out and have a meal or a drink and be able to shop but the law is the law looks like a lot of members are like Dominic Cummings just don't care about the law any place that don't use the gov guide lines needs to be looked at. the law is the law

They key point to note is that restaurants owe a 'duty of care' to their customers. This means they have to ensure

their customers? safety and protect them from harm. Legislation imposes a requirement on restaurateurs to keep

customers safe. If they fail to live up to these duties, they may face a claim for compensation from customers.

[newresidentindulwich]

I go to Memsaab fairly regularly (once every three months or so since moving here) and was pleased to get a booking on their website for dinner last week. We arrived at the correct time to be greeted by a packed restaurant and a big queue outside (not a socially distanced queue). I went in to ask for our booked table and was very rudely told to go away because they were full. I pointed out that I had booked a table on their website to be virtually shouted at that it wasn't their fault that the website was overbooking tables. Needless to say they've lost a customer - I won't ever go back.

[JohnL]

ken78 Wrote:

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> They key point to note is that restaurants owe a

> 'duty of care' to their customers. This means they

> have to ensure

> their customers? safety and protect them from

> harm. Legislation imposes a requirement on

> restaurateurs to keep

> customers safe. If they fail to live up to these

> duties, they may face a claim for compensation

> from customers.

What about in the Queue outside ? Some companies are stating queue management has nothing to do with them.

Maybe that's why they are saying go home.

[DulwichFox]

newresidentindulwich Wrote:

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> I go to Memsaab fairly regularly (once every three

> months or so since moving here) and was pleased to

> get a booking on their website for dinner last

> week. We arrived at the correct time to be

> greeted by a packed restaurant and a big queue

> outside (not a socially distanced queue). I went

> in to ask for our booked table and was very rudely

> told to go away because they were full. I pointed

> out that I had booked a table on their website to

> be virtually shouted at that it wasn't their fault

> that the website was overbooking tables. Needless

> to say they've lost a customer - I won't ever go

> back.

Before Lock down I used to go to Memsaab 2 -3 times a week.

I doubt they will miss 4 yearly visits.

Foxy

[Abe_froeman]

Living up to you're name all over the forum Shrieker. What's made you so angry you've had to sign up here to vent??

[Sue]

Abe_froeman Wrote:

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> Living up to you're name all over the forum

> Shrieker. What's made you so angry you've had to

> sign up here to vent??

He or she is a troll.

Trolls post to get a response. They love it when people take their posts seriously.

Better ignored, then they might go and troll somewhere else.

[Sue]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> newresidentindulwich Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I go to Memsaab fairly regularly (once every

> three

> > months or so since moving here) and was pleased

> to

> > get a booking on their website for dinner last

> > week. We arrived at the correct time to be

> > greeted by a packed restaurant and a big queue

> > outside (not a socially distanced queue). I

> went

> > in to ask for our booked table and was very

> rudely

> > told to go away because they were full. I

> pointed

> > out that I had booked a table on their website

> to

> > be virtually shouted at that it wasn't their

> fault

> > that the website was overbooking tables.

> Needless

> > to say they've lost a customer - I won't ever

> go

> > back.

>

> Before Lock down I used to go to Memsaab 2 -3

> times a week.

>

> I doubt they will miss 4 yearly visits.

>

> Foxy

The frequency of their visits is not the point, is it?

If you book a table, you expect that table to be available when you turn up.

And if it isn't, you expect an apology and some recompense, not to be rudely told to go away.