Jacamo-Fraud ?

[Annette Curtain]

Yesterday, I recieved a statement to tell me ?144.39 was due for goods delivered to a name at my address.(they weren't)

The name is similar to my eldest boy's name, but not quite accurate.

Called the company to be told the goods were signed for, but they couldn't read the signature.

"It's got a P in it"

So I called the fraud dept to be told "We knew it were a fraud, but it was in transit so we couldn't stop it"

I'm informed that we wont hear anything further and the a/c has been stopped.

All a BIT fishy though, any one else had this happen ?

[David A]

No, but I do have a very fat yet surprisingly dapper postman.

He was wearing a new moo-moo this morning, which was unseasonal to say the least.

I'll keep 'em peeled.

[KidKruger]

I had a pair of women's size 5 high-heeled sandals come from Next, addressed to me, i signed for the parcel assuming at first it was something from amazon/ebay.

The shoes are too small for me so no good as a freebee.

Called Next and told them there'd been a mistake.

They said did I not open an account with them recently ? I confimed no.

They put me through to their Fraud dept.

Fraud said they'd close the account, but I had an obligation to return THEIR goods.

I said come and get them.

They said failure to return the goods is effectively theft.

I said I'd return them to a Next store when I locate one near my usual route(s), they said OK.

Reminder phone calls every few weeks then I started working right next to a Next store.

Took the shoes in and got a receiopt from the cashier.

Few months later got a call from Next saying they want the shoes back - I told them I'd returned the shoes and said where and roughly when (myreceipt was probably under a pile of something, somewhere, by now).

They said prove it. I said well I need to find the receipt give me time to find it.

They said no it's urgent.

I said F.Off then I'll see you in court, you're taking the p*ss.

If I could find the gal/guy who did this fraud I'd happily buy them a pair of 'sand wedges' and kick the pair of sandals right up their arse.

[red devil]

For peace of mind, next time insert I said F.Off then I'll see you in court, you're taking the p*ss after They said failure to return the goods is effectively theft...

[KidKruger]

Word.

had to go through it once to suss that though. Slow learner obviously.

[Siduhe]

Yes, had something similar happen a while back. Statements for goods never received. I phoned the catalogue co and they couldn't have been less interested. Closed the account (although didn't delete it so it still showed on my credit record) but refused to send me a letter confirming that they accepted it was a fraud (I was nervous about just relying on phone calls) One of the people in the fraud department that I ended up getting v. stressed with told me it was because it was a lot more work to deal with as a "fraud", given the small amount they would just close the account and write off the balance.

Keep an eye out for other letters though - this happened four or five times after the initial fraud, so someone obviously had my details somehow. They stopped when my other half was unexpectedly at home and was there to receive the packages. The fraudster had terrible taste in clothes btw, and then phoned up the catalogue co to try and reroute the delivery so we got his address and everything. I was told they couldn't tell me the address he gave or email he used due to "data privacy" reasons. So frustrating.

Register your son with CIFAS for a year. Will make it a lot harder for people to try this again.

[Gidget]

Do these packages get intercepted by the fraudster on some occasions and not others?

[Salsaboy]

Happened to me at my ex-wifes house (ex-marital home) with a ?600 laptop from Very.co.uk.

Spoke to their fraud department and they said that someone waits outside the address and as soon as the goods are delivered knocks on the door with a clipboard and a bunch of fake delivery notes, spins a story about how they know it is a fraud and take it back off you, getting you to sign for 'safe' collection. The first you know about it is when you get the bill through a week or so later.

[KidKruger]

Siduhe - ye this happened to me in respect of other 'acccounts' being opened, ie. a coupleof building society accounts, store card accounts, etc.

[woodrot]

I moved out of by delightful Hilly Fields flat a long time ago and set up a mail divert thing for 3 months or so.

kerching...

Suddenly I was being chased by random businesses for O/S debts - Egg sent me a statement through for me to formally refute and get the process going. The user of the new card seemed to shop in Risky in Peckham, spend alot of time at gatwick airport short term parking and shop at Lidl in peckham.OH yes, and a spree at Anne Summers.

Tsk Tsk Tsk

Some people have no ambition- they should have caned it at selfridges on Foir Grais, coffee beans that emerge from a monkeys arse and Janet reger underdogs.

lightweight criminals.

broken Britain.

[Siduhe]

Gidget Wrote:

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> Do these packages get intercepted by the fraudster

> on some occasions and not others?

All the packages got intercepted save for one. I never did work out how - one was a double bed! The fraudster requested timed delivery options so he would know when it was out for delivery. What happened with the one package that was delivered was that the company sent it out a day earlier than expected and my husband was home to receive it. Otherwise we would have had no idea. A few weeks before, someone had come knocking at our door, saying he lived in the block of flats next door and had we received any deliveries for him by mistake. Didn't think much of it at the time, but I guess he may have been part of it.

The good news is that after I registered with CIFAS and signed up to a credit monitoring service, it stopped and (touch wood) I haven't had any more problems for over a year.

[ianr]

So what's your conclusion, Woodrot? Definitely misuse of your old address by someone who got the information of your move from a Royal mail employee; or maybe someone else, maybe even from the same flats, who knew of your move?

[the-e-dealer]

You do not have to return unsolicited goods. The sender has to arrange to collect them. I have a Family connection with the Legislation that covers this.

[Yak]

We had this scam on us with Jacamo a couple of weeks ago. Someone hung around and signed for the goods on our doorstep, apparently. And with Jacamo and a couple of other companies you can open an account and order goods on credit without paying a penny up front, with very few personal details.

Their fraud dept weren't too interested but we reported it to the police who were slightly more on the ball. There have been a few similar scams in our aream, apparently. We have TPS and are opted out of the electoral roll but still our details were got hold of from somewhere.

[ianr]

> We have TPS and are opted out of the electoral roll but still our details were got hold of from somewhere.

The unedited edition of the 2011 electoral register for Dulwich and West Norwood -- which I believe contains most of what we call East Dulwich -- went permanently missing from Dulwich reference library some time in 2011.

[woodrot]

ianr Wrote:

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> So what's your conclusion, Woodrot? Definitely

> misuse of your old address by someone who got the

> information of your move from a Royal mail

> employee; or maybe someone else, maybe even from

> the same flats, who knew of your move?

not the other people as I knew them all well and were good friends - I spose it was a royal mail link - Im assuming posties are aware of forwarding notices and if there was a rotter in the office , he could well have sorted this out. It was just a bit of a meh fraud, all little bits and pieces - not worth getting done for

[LondonLogCo]

Fraud is fraud

Mind you "eggs is eggs"