Phone stolen from a mum, by a guy on a bike

[monica]

A young mum had her phone taken from her hand this evening on Lordship lane, by a guy on a bike. Please be mindful of everything and everyone around you, when you are out and about, and on the phone.

Thanks

[sweetgirl]

I was once standing outside franklins food shop speaking to a friend, about 2 months ago.

We saw 2/3 guys on the Santander bikes, circling around.

They were checking out the tables to see what was available.... They were clearly hovering around to pounce!

These people just turn up from nowhere!

[Abe_froeman]

"These people just turn up from nowhere" unlike the police, sadly

[KidKruger]

Last year when dark I stopped a young guy on a bike on the pavement by the old fried chicken shop/ bus stop next to MeatLiquor.

He was wearing a balaclava and the road (LL) was not quiet enough to warrant cycling on the pavement, especially for a guy big enough and ugly enough to wear a balaclava.

I pulled it off his head as he went past me and my dog and told him to stop trying to intimidate people going about their own business.

He was casing (along with a couple of cohorts) the pavements for prey.

Probably never done a day's honest work - arsehole !

[Annie5]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Last year when dark I stopped a young guy on a

> bike on the pavement by the old fried chicken

> shop/ bus stop next to MeatLiquor.

> He was wearing a balaclava and the road (LL) was

> not quiet enough to warrant cycling on the

> pavement, especially for a guy big enough and ugly

> enough to wear a balaclava.

> I pulled it off his head as he went past me and my

> dog and told him to stop trying to intimidate

> people going about their own business.

> He was casing (along with a couple of cohorts) the

> pavements for prey.

> Probably never done a day's honest work - arsehole

> !

Good for you, very brave

[NewWave]

Annie5 Wrote:

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> KidKruger Wrote:

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> -----

> > Last year when dark I stopped a young guy on a

> > bike on the pavement by the old fried chicken

> > shop/ bus stop next to MeatLiquor.

> > He was wearing a balaclava and the road (LL)

> was

> > not quiet enough to warrant cycling on the

> > pavement, especially for a guy big enough and

> ugly

> > enough to wear a balaclava.

> > I pulled it off his head as he went past me and

> my

> > dog and told him to stop trying to intimidate

> > people going about their own business.

> > He was casing (along with a couple of cohorts)

> the

> > pavements for prey.

> > Probably never done a day's honest work -

> arsehole

> > !

>

>

>

> Good for you, very brave

I thought the same! wish I had the guts to do that.

Some weeks ago two teens on bikes circled me as I walked down LL about 3pm-one cycled alongside me on the pavement his friend on my other side cycling in the kerb-so I was in the middle-it was really scary I just stopped at the nearest bus shelter where happily there were people.and they moved on but the one on the pavement kept looking over his shoulder at me as they cycled away.

I felt because I was a lone older woman they were trying to intimidate me and maybe rob me.

[Sue]

NewWave Wrote:

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> Some weeks ago two teens on bikes circled me as I

> walked down LL about 3pm-one cycled alongside me

> on the pavement his friend on my other side

> cycling in the kerb-so I was in the middle-it was

> really scary I just stopped at the nearest bus

> shelter where happily there were people.and they

> moved on but the one on the pavement kept looking

> over his shoulder at me as they cycled away.

> I felt because I was a lone older woman they were

> trying to intimidate me and maybe rob me.

That sounds really frightening. Glad you were able to reach a place where there were other people.

[Pugwash]

These incidents need to be reported to your local neighbourhood police. They gather information especially location, numbers, clothing etc and frequently do plain clothes surveillance. Police gradually build up a profile of these 'offenders'.

[i*Rate]

kidkruger,

You did a brave thing pulling off the hoodie's hood, sadly he could have taken you to court and claimed you'd infringed his human rights! He could have claimed he was wearing because of the virus.

Best to inform the local bobbies on the beat - oh - ha, ha, there ain't any.

Stay safe.

[Nigello]

I agree about reporting it -

You may not think it is important but if they get more info they could be more effective.

There are other Twitter accounts for Dulwich Hill etc. but if you give any of them a DM telling them where you were in the area they'd point you in the right direction.

[ED - NAGAIUTB]

And thanks to Southwark closing roads with massive planters, they have plenty of escape routes where the Police couldn't follow even if they did turn up.

Win/Win.

[dulwicheye1]

why no cctv camera,s on lordship lane ?? should be more cameras on hot spots....they are very quick to install cameras to catch drivers....so why not cameras to catch these scumbags.

[KidKruger]

Mainly because speed cameras generate revenue.

There?s plenty of cctv, problem is it doesn?t stop this sort of behaviour and the culprits are disguised anyway.

[Pugwash]

Police have advised many times for people to be vigilant when using the phone in the street as they are easy targets

for thieves on bikes.Many times I have seen Mums' with young kids in prams, walking down the street chatting away on their phones seemingly oblivious to what is going on around them i.e other pedestrians, crossing roads without checking on traffic.

[KidKruger]

Yeah it's fair advice Pugwash. I try to follow it, was out last night late between E&C and ED on foot and was itching for a browse.

But just waited til home.

[JohnL]

Pugwash Wrote:

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> Police have advised many times for people to be

> vigilant when using the phone in the street as

> they are easy targets for thieves on bikes.

This is the big one for me and the only reason I insure my phone - when it wasn't insured I was all out for a fight over it (after a few pints)

"Finally ? and this is so important to remember ? if you?re threatened with violence, don?t risk your personal safety. Property can be replaced, you can?t."

[SpringTime]

A lovely group of charming boys were seen riding possibly their own bicycles North on Grove Vale at about 3.40pm yesterday. They did well to risk their own lives, and those of others, by jumping red lights, swerving through traffic and riding on and off the pavement. At least one of them had stolen a pedestrian's phone, wallet or purse by the time they'd reached East Dulwich station. The group then turned right on to Quorn Road and met with an older and delighted looking acquaintance - seemed that the takings were satisfactory. This activity was reported to the police.

The group consisted of around eight black youths around 12 to 16 years of age all wearing the same old drab grey/black tracks suits and trainers.

[absolutelizard]

SpringTime Wrote:

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> A lovely group of charming boys were seen riding

> possibly their own bicycles North on Grove Vale at

> about 3.40pm yesterday. They did well to risk

> their own lives, and those of others, by jumping

> red lights, swerving through traffic and riding on

> and off the pavement. At least one of them had

> stolen a pedestrian's phone, wallet or purse by

> the time they'd reached East Dulwich station. The

> group then turned right on to Quorn Road and met

> with an older and delighted looking acquaintance -

> seemed that the takings were satisfactory. This

> activity was reported to the police.

> The group consisted of around eight black youths

> around 12 to 16 years of age all wearing the same

> old drab grey/black tracks suits and trainers.

And no doubt, if rightly stopped and searched, these kids and other members of the public will accuse the Police of being racist.

[JohnL]

If they were 12-16 we're talking child abuse (It's like a scene from Oliver as described above - Fagin style - I notice they are putting themselves and others at risk)

How should we deal with children like this now ?

[Pugwash]

Gangs are recruiting young children/youths to carry out criminal acts (County Lines) you should notify the police asap as this could be part of a bigger organisation. Not sure which Neighbourhood Police ward Grove Vale and Quorn Road are in.

Grove Vale likely to be under Goose Green Police.

[absolutelizard]

JohnL Wrote:

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> If they were 12-16 we're talking child abuse (It's

> like a scene from Oliver as described above -

> Fagin style - I notice they are putting themselves

> and others at risk)

>

> How should we deal with children like this now ?

Stop, search and if necessary arrest and prosecution.

I saw some young kids being swiftly handcuffed when accused of theft last Friday on Camden High Street. They werent such big boys then, crying to the Police to let them call their mum (who no doubt says they are good boys that go to church every Sunday).

[alice]

Three versions of the same unpleasant poster have popped up recently. Hmm?

[Siduhe]

alice Wrote:

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> Three versions of the same unpleasant poster have

> popped up recently. Hmm?

My thought too. Tedious. Though at this rate he?ll be in the Lounge with his other incarnations soon enough.

[SpringTime]

JohnL Wrote:

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> If they were 12-16 we're talking child abuse (It's

> like a scene from Oliver as described above -

> Fagin style - I notice they are putting themselves

> and others at risk)

>

> How should we deal with children like this now ?

Exactly my impression John - it wasn't really that the poor kids seemed so dull. In fact when they were tearing up the street they looked as though they were having the time of their lives (probably quite short ones if something doesn't change) but it was the end of the episode that said it all - a happy receiver of stolen goods is just how it appeared to me, and just as Dickens portrayed it.

Anyway if the police can help then I am glad. As a kid I was no angel and when it came to the crunch some proper authority worked for me - sometimes it hurt but in all I came to understand the effects of my crimes on others. And whilst I am not sure "how should we deal with children like this now" as you have asked, it does seem to me that an awful lot of kids just do not have anyone there in their lives to tell them what to do. And I really mean just simply that: they need people to tell them what to do. Please, ye folks of the EDF, try not to see this remark as a left/right issue since that's not what I want to mean - they really just need some basic instructions.

[trinidad]

do we have descriptions?