Ethical Vegetarianism

[Huguenot]

Just to point out the obvious - a vegetarian wouldn't pillory a lion as a 'murderer,' because they would point out that the lion can't make an educated rational judgement. It's just doing what it comes naturally.

The differentiation that the vegetarian makes in that context is sufficient to demonstrate that vegetarians consider humans and animals to have different moral standing.

In other words they are being inconsistent when they claim the killing of a human being has equivalence with the killing of an animal. By their own affirmation, meat CANNOT be murder, because humans CANNOT be judged the same as animals.

Alternatively, if vegetarians insist that they are being consistent, then in claiming that the death of an animal has equivalence to the death of a human they are consciously REDUCING the value of a human life to that of an animal.

That's a sociopathic judgement - and reinforces what I've always suspected about vegetarians (that they're secretly on a misanthropic self affirming quest to kill us all - a suspicion reinforced by the recognition that like any dangerous religion it requires self-enforced and tortuous abstinence as part of its rapacious mental discipline). ;-)

BTW - I'm just having fun at the end there!

[KidKruger]

Malumbu:

"But if you choose to justify eating meat, as some of you seem to want to do, kill it, and eat everything edible. Sweetmeats, brains, tripe, the whole lot."

If you're making a distinction between meat eaters and 'vegetarians', shouldn't that rule be applied equally ?

When you eat a potato or other root vegetable do you eat the leaves, shoots and fibrous tendrils - ideally not peeling them so you don't waste ANY part (which, I presume, is your entire point) ?

Sweet corn would be an interesting one, that's a lot of plant to chew through to get to the little nubs of corn at the top !

And of course, there's never anything left on your plate, you devour EVERY morsel, scraping nothing into the bin, right ?

And don't eat your veg unless you're prepared to pull on some wellies, trudge across acres of muddy field and uproot the lucky spud all by yourself.

Is that what you really meant to say Malumbu ?

[Jessie]

Don't eat meat, never eaten meat, really don't care if other people do or don't. Have been known to cook meat for ex boyfriends. For me it's not a moral choice, just a matter of taste.

[Cassius]

I don't eat meat but I kill wasps - they appear to be pretty pointless and can cause harm if they sting.

[Loz]

Vegetarianism is like religion - 99% of the followers go about it quietly and with little fuss. The other 1% are just bloody annoying and try to foist their beliefs on others whether they want them to or not.

[KidKruger]

Following on from Aquarius Moon's points yesterday at 9.23pm, all vegetarians should think twice about putting slug pellets down in the garden, because they might poison your tortoises or birds which pass through the garden.

[aquarius moon]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Following on from Aquarius Moon's points yesterday

> at 9.23pm, all vegetarians should think twice

> about putting slug pellets down in the garden,

> because they might poison your tortoises or birds

> which pass through the garden.

If I rescue snails from the pavement,

I'm hardly going to use slug pellets am I ?!

[the-e-dealer]

I'll put rubber bullets in my AK47

[AbDabs]

Cassius Wrote:

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> I don't eat meat but I kill wasps - they appear to

> be pretty pointless and can cause harm if they

> sting.

They're not pointless - a lot of wasps (huge number of varieties) pollinate plants. They also eat aphids so they should be the vegetarian's friend (as aphids cause so much damage to vegetable crops).