Jump to content

Recommended Posts

I think anyone commenting without actually WATCHING the show needs to WATCH it first and than comment. The clips are dramatised and taken out of context. When you watch the show there isn?t more holes than a Swiss cheese plus they said there was a ?concern? about Archie?s colour which is different to being curious as to who he will take after colour wise.

Watch the show, then give feedback otherwise you are just as bad as the tabloids.

diable rouge Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> ''I didn't watch it but I'm going to comment

> anyway despite not knowing the full context of

> what was said, and instead will form my opinion

> from the comments of assorted cultural keyboard

> warriors''

>

> What a fooking bunch of gossiping fishwives...:)


you're right. I am rather ashamed at myself. I blame intrusive social media and the institution that is the EDF (aka 'The Forum').

Good point re context - nobody can ever know that for certain as it is all recalled memory, some of which conflicted with Harry's recollection. Oprah wanted box-office and got it. It wasn't journalism, it was spectacle and reflects badly on the participants. It - the interview - has become like Brexit, ie. a coat hanger for any number of virtues and prejudices, so in that respect it was a success because everyone went away happy, content that what they saw and heard validated their existing beliefs.

keano77 Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Didn?t see it but I?m wondering why many are

> assuming the question of the colour of the baby?s

> skin was racist.

>

> The concern might have been what the baby would

> look like with ginger hair against possible shades

> of skin.

>

> 😬


"I haven't seen it, but let me tell you how this black person misunderstood racism"


Also, if the concern was actually hair colour, then they would have said "I'm concerned about the child's hair colour".


You'd likely win gold at the Olympics with that gymnastics routine.

You see it a lot in modern day 'journalism', especially contrarians like the spiked-online mob, who instead of working through context and nuances towards a conclusion, they start with a conclusion that fits in with their culture war narrative and work back from that. A distinct lack of original, critical thinking...

Just a thought, every little girl (yes there are exceptions) grows up wanting to meet a handsome princess fall in love and be a princess (I still have my Cinderella outfit 🤔)


Yet reality has struck Meghan when it happened to her and it has to be naive of her not to understand what marrying into the Windsor family would entail (sadly Princess Diana was a recent case from history)


But to air your dirty laundry in public on media talk shows doesn't bode well for future relationships with her now extended family and for Harry's relationship with them.


To help put her comments into context, let's not also forget her very public spats with her father pre wedding.

EDguy89 Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------


>

> "let me tell you how this

> black person misunderstood racism"

>

How she herself feels/felt on hearing relayed news of someone else's conversation is one thing. Implying very unempathetically (in a public forum) what someone else 'meant' by a comment heard secondhand is quite another.


But the likely (my opinion) aim of manipulating the press and the public has been achieved...you've already labelled it as 'racism' without question....upon hearing it now 3rd-hand....

EDguy89 Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> keano77 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Didn?t see it but I?m wondering why many are

> > assuming the question of the colour of the

> baby?s

> > skin was racist.

> >

> > The concern might have been what the baby would

> > look like with ginger hair against possible

> shades

> > of skin.

> >

> > 😬

>

> "I haven't seen it, but let me tell you how this

> black person misunderstood racism"

>

> Also, if the concern was actually hair colour,

> then they would have said "I'm concerned about the

> child's hair colour".

>

> You'd likely win gold at the Olympics with that

> gymnastics routine.


Fair enough EDguy89, but then I don?t have have an expensive PR machine behind me telling me the best buttons to press (racism, mental illness), when to get tearful, broken-voiced, when to put my hand on my baby bump etc. And when the storm reverberates around the world, release another black and white picture of the two of you with Archie set against a nature background.


That should get them eating out of your hand your highness.

It's just an over-blown case of "What our Whatsit said to our Whoever at Aunty X's funeral. And Uncle Z looked at me funnily". No good would come of writing that up for the local paper.


I think Oprah should tale some of the responsibility for airing this sort of tittle tattle if she prides herself on being a professional interviewer, rather than just out to make money, which has been her standpoint in the past. She must realise it would only cause damage.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Megan?s taken full advantage of a team planning

> and prepping this. It?s all about building a

> brand.... and public empathy is incredibly

> valuable


Yes, she?s fully clued up on image etc but other than that incredibly naive. Oprah, on the other hand, has been playing a long game.


My contender for who asked the ?what colour? question is one of the two airhead grand daughter princesses.

I do wonder what Meghan's longer game plan is?


Talk show host, book(s) , film on her life ,political role?


It seems to me that she is setting the stage up for something bigger in her mind.


Hopefully the Americans will tire of their story soon when it runs out of new shocking revelations about how the Queen trained the Corgis to poop in her shoes or similar and they will fade from public view after her fifteen minutes of fame.


Oh well back to the pandemic which is blighting real lives all around us.

Spartacus Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------


> Hopefully the Americans will tire of their story

> soon when it runs out of new shocking revelations

> about how the Queen trained the Corgis to poop in

> her shoes or similar and they will fade from

> public view after her fifteen minutes of fame.


It's part of the "Culture Wars" in the US so it'll just move on in my view. I notice the group representing UK press (The Society of Editors) says the UK press isn't bigoted - a lot of people disagree with that.


CNN trying to link it all together in this article https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/09/uk/meghan-racism-uk-reaction-gbr-intl/index.html


and finally


"CNN will soon launch Royal News, a weekly newsletter bringing you the inside track on the royal family, what they are up to in public and what's happening behind palace walls. " LOL are they on a troll :)

JohnL Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> So the Press Gazette tried to back up claims of

> the Society of Editors that UK media is not

> bigoted but a lot of people are disagreeing. Is

> the press the real problem here ?

>

> https://pressgazette.co.uk/bigoted-uk-press-harry-

> and-meghan-racism-claim-debate-media-coverage/


For every view there's a counter view (as has been demonstrated many times on the forum)


There will always be disagreeing with a public statement like the press is not bigoted but their disagreement doesn't make the statement incorrect but the statement may not necessarily be correct either.


My feeling is that things like this should be taken with a pinch of salt and the facts examined not the hysteria around the story.


The Piers thing for example attracted a lot of complaints to ofcom, but I have to question how many of those complaining actual saw him say it and how many are jumping on a social media bandwagon and complaining without actually having seen the event happening?


Their complaints aren't ant less important but would they have occurred if they weren't told about it? 🤔


We are becoming a society where we judge via social media based on what Karen put on facebook without examining the truth to draw our own conclusions.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Really like this place. Good food, reasonable price and super friendly
    • Excuse me? Are you the forum police or just a nosy parker? For your information me and my kids were almost hit by a crazy black boy heading that way on a bike that day so I wondered if it was the same youth. It was upsetting, we could have been seriously hurt. In future wind in your neck before judging people. As I said when you stuck your nose in with unfounded implication and suspicion before, mixed race woman posting here and I bet £100 you are a bourgeois native Brit who obsessively sees race in everything at the expence of practicality (being able to identify potential criminals by describing their physical appearance). If your socialist utopia isn't going to plan don't blame the messenger. 
    • 🛁 Bastek Interiors – Bathrooms & Interior Fix-Ups Without the Fuss 🔧 Local, tidy and the kind of person who brings his own hoover.   Hi neighbours 👋 I’m Sebastian, a Brockley-based tradesman and the guy behind Bastek Interiors. I specialise in bathroom makeovers and interior renovations – done properly, with care and attention to the details that matter. (And yes, I bring my own hoover.)   If your bathroom’s looking tired, walls need some TLC, or the silicone’s seen better days – I’m your guy.       🧰 What I offer:     • Full bathroom renovations – from bare walls to steamy showers • Plastering & painting – smooth walls, fresh colours • Woodwork – skirting boards, architraves, shelving • Silicone replacement – because mouldy corners are a crime     ✅ Punctual & polite (but powered by coffee) ✅ No mess left behind (unless you count compliments) ✅ Free quotes – no pressure, no faff ✅ Trusted locally – East Dulwich included   📍 Based in Brockley, covering SE London   📸 Want to see my work or book a visit? 🌐 www.BastekInteriors.co.uk 📩 Email: contact@bastekinteriors.co.uk 📱 Phone: 07947751333   Happy to help – or chat tiles, if you’re into that sort of thing 😄 Cheers! Sebastian
    • No, he was utterly un-electable. Any sensible, non-Momentum, Labour member knew this. Corbyn likes to blame the press but that is the far-left modus operandi - find someone else to blame when the problem lies at your doorstep. I know someone who was on his team and they convinced themselves that they had won on the basis of social media. He was a disaster for the party and only Covid and the incompetence of the Tories allowed Labour to recover. Corbyn was on Newsnight last night clearly putting himself back on the circuit in the hope of a Starmer downfall.  This is why Labour HQ does not want McAsh leading the council - they are trying to purge the party of the far-left due to the damage they have done to it and I believe any swing to a more far-left leadership in Labour HQ would be an unmitigated disaster and just be rolling out the red-carpet for Farage. But the far-left won't care they see another opportunity to take over after they fumbled the ball massively in 2019.
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...