Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Pugwash Wrote:

------------------------------------------------------

Unfortunately all the pharmacists who turned up at the first applications' meeting all those years ago, did not keep to their promise of providing a rota of late night pharmacys in Dulwich and Nunhead - so this is where the DMC has the advantage.


Couldn't agree with this more. The last application was turned down in part based on some very clear and public representations from local pharmacists that they would do more to support the community (inc. people like me who work long/odd hours and can't always leave home after 9am or be back before 6pm to pick up a prescription). I'm pretty furious that they did a grant total of f*all once the application was turned down.

Basically the Drs at the DMC are wanting a quick buck.


GP practices are (always have been) privately run businesses - making money from being a dispensing pharmacy is no more a 'quick buck' for them as for any High Street chemist. They appear to have made a perfectly sound business strategic decision to vertically integrate their pharmacy business whilst expanding horizontally at their CPR site by offering both health and dispensing services. They also appear to be willing to offer an out-of-hours service which their local competitors have signally failed to do (although the Pharmacist at Sainbury's in DKH is open almost as long as that shop itself).


Attacking a commercial proposal because it might make money for its owners appears perverse.

I agree with Otta. This is blatant NIMBYism - measures that address the issue of drug miss-use are needed, as long as they do not happen in our streets.


The portacabin idea is not good, it will look tatty. If DMC are genuinely committed to this, a brick built building would look more professional would be more secure, I suspect.


James Barber, please do not use the Forum to promote your consistent rabble rousing NIMBY sentiment.

People may call me a nimby, but I am very concerned about the proposal

I live opposite where the pharmacy would be

I'm a young woman and because I work shifts I'm often walking along the road at night around 10pm in the dark - a needle exchange (which is part of the proposals) worries me

I understand people need these facilities, but of it was offered at a pharmacy on a main road which is well lit, that strikes me as being very different from a quiet residential street, when of you are walking home in the evening nobody else is around.

This isn't NIMYISM. I don't live on Crystal Palace Road, but it seems a strange place to locate a 24 hour pharmacy with needle exchange. I'm not against such a development, but surely north criss road or lordship lane would make more sense.

Again this is a quiet residential street, this late night operation should be on a well lit, busy public road not in effect a quiet back street with no public transport links.


Perhaps more thought and investigation should go into proposing where any late night operation should be sited.

sedm Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

>> I live opposite where the pharmacy would be

> I'm a young woman and because I work shifts I'm

> often walking along the road at night around 10pm

> in the dark - a needle exchange (which is part of

> the proposals) worries me


xxxxxxx


And your image of the typical user of a needle exchange is - what, exactly?


Somebody who is likely to cause you fear, or worse, when you're walking along the road around 10pm in the dark?


Because ..... ???


I can't believe we're debating this on this forum yet again.

sedm Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> People may call me a nimby, but I am very

> concerned about the proposal

> I live opposite where the pharmacy would be

> I'm a young woman and because I work shifts I'm

> often walking along the road at night around 10pm

> in the dark - a needle exchange (which is part of

> the proposals) worries me

> I understand people need these facilities, but of

> it was offered at a pharmacy on a main road which

> is well lit, that strikes me as being very

> different from a quiet residential street, when of

> you are walking home in the evening nobody else is

> around.



Yeah, damn those responsible drug addicts keeping themselves safe!


I understand being afraid, as a woman in general in the dark (I'm a woman, we do and will always have the of someone harrassing us) but this should actually reduce that risk, not increase it. You are covered on all sides, there are loads of houses at ground level, not empty midnight shops, and people using a needle exchange are likely to be very responsible.


That aside, tons of people would benefit from an open night pharmacy who aren't those, "dangerous" people you're worrying about.

ED is full of utter snobs. I'm not aiming it at you, or even this forum, but it's so depressing. All this talk of localism, local shops, mother and baby groups, grossly inflated rent prices, but no responsibility or care for people who aren't middle class, organic chicken buyers, who are part of your community, too. Some of the crap I've seen on this forum about Peckham makes me wonder if some people in ED would rather people move out for the benefit of the middle classes.

I think you've lapsed into TV caricatures there brain_opera?


There may well be people as you describe in both ED and the forum, but they aren't on this thread.


Amingst those rejecting the proposal on this thread there's a couple of chaps that I'll loosely describe as traditional conservatives who believe in individual responsibility and social discipline. Their chief motivation will be in protecting their community against encroaching moral relativism and the collapse of society.


Then there's one or two people who are genuinely anxious about the safety aspects of having strangers in poorly lit residential areas late at night.


I can't see any middle class snobs matching your description.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Per Cllr McAsh, as quoted above: “We are currently updating our Enforcement Policy and changes will allow for the issuing of civil penalties ranging from £175 to £300 for visible smoke emissions, replacing the previous reliance on criminal prosecution. " Is anyone au fait with the Clean Air Act 1993, and  particularly with the state of 'Smoke Control' law and practice generally?  I've just been looking  through some of it for the first time and, afaics, the civil penalties mentioned  were introduced into the Clean Air Act, at Schedule 1A, in May 2022.  So it seems that, in this particular,  it's a matter of the enforcement policy trailing well behind the legislation.  I'm not criticising that at all, but am curious.  
    • Here's the part of march46's linked-to Southwark News article pertaining to Southwark Council. "Southwark Council were also contacted for a response. "Councillor James McAsh, Cabinet Member for Clean Air, Streets & Waste said: “One of Southwark’s key priorities is to create a healthy environment for our residents. “To achieve this we closely monitor legislation and measures that influence air pollution – our entire borough apart from inland waterways is designated as a Smoke Control Area, and we also offer substantial provision for electric vehicles to promote alternative fuel travel options and our Streets for People strategy. “We as a council support the work of Mums for Lungs and recognise the health and environmental impacts of domestic solid fuel burning, particularly from wood-burning appliances. “We are currently updating our Enforcement Policy and changes will allow for the issuing of civil penalties ranging from £175 to £300 for visible smoke emissions, replacing the previous reliance on criminal prosecution.  “This work is being undertaken in collaboration with other London boroughs as part of the pan-London Wood Burning Project, which aims to harmonise enforcement approaches and share best practice across the capital.” ETA: And here's a post I made a few years ago, with tangential relevance.  https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/278140-early-morning-drone-flying/?do=findComment&comment=1493274  
    • The solicitor is also the Executor. Big mistake, but my Aunt was very old, and this was the Covid years and shortly after so impossible to intervene and get a couple of close relatives to do this.  She had no children so this is the nephews and nieces. He is a single practitioner, and most at his age would have long since retired - there is a question over his competence Two letters have already gone essentially complaining - batted off and 'amusingly' one put the blame on us. There are five on our side, all speaking to each other, and ideally would work as a single point of contact.  But he has said that this is not allowed - we've all given approval to act on each others behalf. There are five on her late husband's side, who have not engaged with us despite the suggestion to work as a team, There is one other, who get's the lion's share, the typicical 'friend', but we are long since challenging the will. I would like to put another complaint together that he has not used modern collective communication (I expect that he is incapable) which had seriously delayed the execution of the will.   I know many in their 80s very adept with smart phones so that is not an ageist comment. The house has deteriorated very badly, with cold, damp and a serious leak.  PM me if you want to see the dreadful condition that it is now in. I would also question why if the five of us are happy to work together why all of us need to confirm in writing.             The house was lived in until Feb 23, and has been allowed to get like this.
    • Isn’t a five yearly electricity safety certificate one of the things the landlord must give for a legal tenancy?
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...