Dulwich Alliance Facebook page

[Metallic]

I have just come across the Dulwich Alliance Facebook page with various info notices. It's a good idea to reach further in to the ED area I think.

[northernmonkey]

Perhaps they could use the facebook page to suggest to supporters that they take down the tone deaf posters they produced and handed out?

Dulwich Alliance have finally begrudgingly conceded that 'all roads matter' could cause offence (whilst trying to claim that using the statement wasn't intentional)- but shops such as Fashion Conscience who are core Dulwich Alliance supporters are still displaying the poster in their window, as well as an unbelievable number of houses on Ashbourne Grove!

[Metallic]

northernmonkey Wrote:

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> Perhaps they could use the facebook page to

> suggest to supporters that they take down the tone

> deaf posters they produced and handed out?

>

> Dulwich Alliance have finally begrudgingly

> conceded that 'all roads matter' could cause

> offence (whilst trying to claim that using the

> statement wasn't intentional)- but shops such as

> Fashion Conscience who are core Dulwich Alliance

> supporters are still displaying the poster in

> their window, as well as an unbelievable number of

> houses on Ashbourne Grove!

I was one of the complainers about that phrase but the apology says Rupa Huq MP used it. Anyway I was told there are new ones coming. There are lots up at the Plough shops.

[northernmonkey]

You know that just cos someone else used it it doesn't make it ok right?

Is it ok to leave up posters with slogans from far right racist groups as long as 'new ones are coming'?

I don't doubt that many people 'didn't think' about it but now its been pointed out its interesting how Dulwich Alliance have dealt with it (ie they haven't really!)

[ab29]

So-called LTNs and its consequences is a problem here not a slogan which a totally agree with - all streets do matter (only wish the Dulwich labour councillors understood this). It's a smokescreen.

northernmonkey Wrote:

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> You know that just cos someone else used it it

> doesn't make it ok right?

>

> Is it ok to leave up posters with slogans from far

> right racist groups as long as 'new ones are

> coming'?

>

> I don't doubt that many people 'didn't think'

> about it but now its been pointed out its

> interesting how Dulwich Alliance have dealt with

> it (ie they haven't really!)

[northernmonkey]

Feel free to keep standing by the slogan if you like. Alternatively accept it was ill judged and wrong and hope that the replacement poster is less offensive?

[mfcjoe]

Less than one year 'til the council elections, i will be voting Tory for the first time ever, no LTNs in tory boroughs.

[ab29]

I do not see this slogan as offensive - I see LTNs as offensive (damaging) to many people of various backgrounds and yet somehow many of you here failed to acknowledge / understand it.

northernmonkey Wrote:

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> Feel free to keep standing by the slogan if you

> like. Alternatively accept it was ill judged and

> wrong and hope that the replacement poster is less

> offensive?

[northernmonkey]

This is a discussion about whether a slogan is ill judged and offensive and whether people should be encouraged to remove it. Regardless of whether you find it offensive or not, plenty of people do and therein lies the current issue with it! Haven't even discussed the first part.

[northernmonkey]

Not sure you're helping the Dulwich Alliance campaign there zorya!

[Earl Aelfheah]

Another thread to discuss LTNs / opposition to LTNs? Really?

[Spartacus]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> Another thread to discuss LTNs / opposition to

> LTNs? Really?

Maybe the number of threads reflects how strongly people feel (either way) about the LTNs and how the council are treating residents.

[Glemham]

Replying to mfcjoe

If you vote for the Tories you are supporting LTNs because most of the money for them comes from the Department of Transport. Andrew Giiligan was cycling ?Czar? when Johnson was Mayor, and now ensconced in the Cabinet Office is pursuing an even more radical cycling agenda.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Spartacus Wrote:

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> rahrahrah Wrote:

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> > Another thread to discuss LTNs / opposition to

> > LTNs? Really?

>

>

> Maybe the number of threads reflects how strongly

> people feel (either way) about the LTNs and how

> the council are treating residents.

It's possible to feel strongly about something without constantly starting new threads on the same topic.

[legalalien]

Rahrahrah might help if you stop bumping the threads by responding to them?

I know I'm guilty of starting thread number 2 as I thought it would be helpful to have one with just info/ links to resources and not arguments - that lasted a reasonable while... but ultimately you can't control free speech. I accept that.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I?m not starting the threads. Just appealing to people to stop creating new ones all the time. Very happy to debate, but would be good if it could be done in one place.

[Rockets]

But Rahx3 the beauty of the forum is that when people stop posting (i.e. the thread runs its's course) then the thread drops down - it's self-policing in it's own way. Lots of the threads, although linked to the same issue, are discussing different elements of it and Admin is good at dealing with those that are truly duplicative.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I think we only need 1 more and we'll be into double digits. Just seems a little excessive.

[Rockets]

Maybe it's just reflective of the impact of them in the local area and the fact lots of people have questions and point to raise about them - it is different people starting them each time so not as if some of us usual suspects are creating threads for the sake of it! ;-)

[dulwichfolk]

I blame the vocal minority....

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Spartacus Wrote:

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> rahrahrah Wrote:

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> > Another thread to discuss LTNs / opposition to

> > LTNs? Really?

>

>

> Maybe the number of threads reflects how strongly

> people feel (either way) about the LTNs and how

> the council are treating residents.

Buzz on this forum (dominated by a few bad tempered cranks*) and Twitter (dominated by bots) bear only a loose relationship with the world. Most people in real life East Dulwich won't even be aware of this forum.

* I certainly count myself as a bad-tempered crank.