post restrictions

[lameduck]

I need to send a bottle of perfume to the states.

but new laws phohibit perfume sent on planes.

perversly you can buy duty free and get on a plane

I wonder how chanel manage to send to the states

any ideas?

[EDmummy]

Saw this in post office today and thought it was new. My husband tells me it's been so since 2010 at least. First I've heard about it. Told my mum today in Australia and she's gutted as I send her a bottle of perfume a couple of times a year. It's absolutely ridiculous! Quite annoyed!!

[EJTH]

If you want to send perfume overseas now you need to use an online site and have it delivered locally.

Haven't used it but a friend recommended it for US - http://www.perfumebee.com/

One for Australia - http://www.myperfume.com.au/

[lameduck]

thankyou very much EDMUMMY and EJTH

but this is rare discontinued perfume

and not generally known in this country

so I really dont know what to do

I enquired about surface mail and was told if they have room on a plane

they often put the sea mail on board

so you just cannot win.

[Huguenot]

There must be a way - you're giving up too easily.

Try parcel delivery firms, and even contact the perfume manufacturer, it would be good PR for them to demonstrate how they go one step further for loyal customers.

[lameduck]

just recieved letter from post office sent a bottle of perfume to italy on 12th jan

new law came into force on the 14th. letter read found a parcel and disposed of contents.

i have one missing on route to italy. Italian giving me a hard time, I will reimburse him.

phoned up royal mail had a row, told him posted in innocence 2 days before new laws,

more or less told tough, they apparrantley intercepted perfume at heathrow, took it to belfast where i am sure it is now sitting on some irish customs mans wifes dresser, and so called disposed of it.

i have accused them of theft, was told not theft, i sell perfume on ebay and i restrict my selling destinations

because of corrupt countries, and am appalled that our english post is no better. they could have sent it back the odd 20 miles back here then threatened me instead they charged me a fiver to send it and they then stole it.

please look at their limitations and dont get caught out

lynne

[Loz]

As far as I can see, the rules on perfumes were slightly relaxed (for UK addresses) on 14 Jan, so the fact that you posted 2 days before didn't actually help your argument. International stays the same as that is governed by international (ICAO) rules.

Royal Mail could have had you prosecuted for attempting to send 'dangerous goods'. You have the liability to ensure what you send is allowed under the rules. As you did send it, they are entitled to dispose or destroy as they see fit.

http://postandparcel.info/51769/news/companies/royal-mail-revising-ban-on-mailing-perfume-and-aftershave/

http://www.royalmail.com/sites/default/files/6966-DG-A5-Business-customer%20booklet_0.pdf

[lameduck]

In response to Loz

i sent this in innocence i in fact did not find out about this law until about a week ago

and am not putting myself up here to judged by anybody, i started this thread because i have another customer

in the states and rather than break the law, thought anybody out there may have a solution,

and maybe if something you send innocent or whatever and somebody or company steals your item

you may have different thoughts

lynne

[giggirl]

Reading the title, "post restrictions", I thought maybe admin had been a little too harsh with someone and there was rebellion in the rank and file. Not so.

Lameduck, ebay can be a good resource for discontinued/hard to get perfumes. Have you perhaps considered looking at ebay in the US so that the perfume can be sent by domestic courier within the US?

[lameduck]

thankyou for your response gigirl

I have been selling rare perfume for sometime now usually only at xmas on ebay.

the perfume i have is here, I sold a bottle for ?130 on saturday night to los angeles

I have told the lady please do not pay me until i can find a way to ship to you.

It was a cheap bottle destroyed about 20 pounds + postage, every courier now will not take perfume Royal mail

do not even want to take it sea mail, amazon are still sending perfume i can still buy from hong kong and spain. i am suddenly a criminal, i must have sold hundreds of bottles of perfume and posted them all over the world. thankyou for your thoughts and kind response

lynne

[giggirl]

So you are an ebay seller? I hadn't picked that up - I thought you might be shipping to a friend or relative or something.

Oh dear - if you've been selling perfume on ebay then these new regulations will knock that on the head. So does this mean you can't take perfume on a plane any more? That will piss off the duty free shops.

[lameduck]

hi ggirl

you can buy perfume duty free board a plane as normal

you just cannot send it airmail, so when i said ok sea mail will be fine

they told me no if theres room on a plane we send on a plane.

but my sister worked in the post office and has she pointed out freight goes down to southampton liverpool

airmal goes to heathrow, so if the docks and airport were side by side that would be possible as they are not its crap. its another case of big companys can do what they wish

lynne

[Huguenot]

I'm guessing these restrictions have been introduced to prevent miscreants getting flammable or explosive materials onto a plane when the passenger is not present.

So I imagine that perfume sales through duty free would be unaffected.

I still think you're giving up too easily lame duck. Clearly airmail is out of reach unless you set up some sort of specialist relationship with couriers that will require industrial scale time and money.

However there must still be distributors working with sea mail.

I actually do this in reverse: to purchase stuff in the US for US citizens I get stuff delivered to a US based fulfillment house who then collect and mail to me in larger packages at more irregular intervals.

It costs me a couple of weeks, but if these perfumes are as rare as you say, I'm sure your customers would both understand and wait.

Get creative!

[lameduck]

Thankyou for your encouragement Hugenot

trouble is i am 60 odd and to be truthfull im pretty thick

and i would not know how to go about it

ynne

[EJTH]

Under the new regulations you simply won't be able to. http://www.royalmail.com/sites/default/files/International-prohibitions-and-restrictions-leaflet-consumers_0.pdf

[Loz]

giggirl Wrote:

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> Oh dear - if you've been selling perfume on ebay

> then these new regulations will knock that on the

> head.

They're not 'new' restrictions - they've been around since at least 2008.

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=809059

[lameduck]

Loz i do hope you never need a colonoscopy

as you are so far up your own axxe

you could inspect it your self

lynne

[Loz]

What exactly is wrong with you lameduck? All I am doing is pointing out the law. In my first post I actually tried to help you see what the law is and why the post office rejected both your package and your claim. In the second I was just correcting giggirl's misunderstanding.

Why are you taking this personally? What do you want from this thread? Sympathy? Are you actually claiming victim status here? You did wrong and you lost your perfume. Suck it up. Wildly lashing out and abusing me won't change that.

For a 60 year old, you have a lot of growing up to do. But I suppose, as you yourself pointed out, you are "to be truthful, pretty thick".

[lameduck]

loz i do not need you showing me the law

actually if you read my first post i was pointing out to maybe stop somebody else

making the same mistake, whilst also wondering if anybody else had any ideas

as to how to go about this.

there are an awful lot of nice people on this forum.

why dont you join them and be less patronising

[Loz]

lameduck Wrote:

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> loz i do not need you showing me the law

I dunno. You seem to have been completely ignorant of it, then complained bitterly when it was applied to you. Then you claimed our postal people are a bunch of thieves. Hardly the actions of someone completely au fait with the law.

> why dont you join them and be less patronising

I haven't even begun to be patronising. Stick around. I'll probably start on your grammar, punctuation and spelling.

[giggirl]

Low blow

[Loz]

Maybe, but I consider deserved after that unnecessary, petty little outburst.

[lameduck]

you really rate yourself

you are a very self righteous person

[Huguenot]

Anyway, there I was, Kilimanjaro, 76....

[Loz]

lameduck Wrote:

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> you really rate yourself

> you are a very self righteous person

Oh no! I'm being incoherently abused by a cheap perfume salesperson.