Stolen parcels

[Metallic]

Also the neighbourhood watch police area I live (DV ward) in sent a newsletter before Christmas that there is a scam locally with DPD delivering an unexpected parcel, correctly addressed and then another DPD driver coming later on and saying it was delivered by mistake, and trying to get it back. Mystery how they do it and no one has been caught yet. The newsletter said to phone police if this is the case and then hopefully they will catch the person doing it. I suppose they are masquerading as DPD couriers.

[Sue]

How would they know the parcel was "unexpected"?

That seems a bit strange!

[Metallic]

Sue Wrote:

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> How would they know the parcel was "unexpected"?

>

> That seems a bit strange!

Because it has a return address on it not recognised. Or is opened and then you don't know what it is and where it has come from, and then there is the knock at the door. High value things, we were told expensive items.

[Sue]

Metallic Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > How would they know the parcel was

> "unexpected"?

> >

> > That seems a bit strange!

> Because it has a return address on it not

> recognised. Or is opened and then you don't know

> what it is and where it has come from, and then

> there is the knock at the door. High value

> things, we were told expensive items.

But that doesn't make sense?

What is the scam, exactly? Someone is changing the addresses on the parcels, so that it is delivered to someone else, hence the recipient isn't expecting it?

Because for it to be a scam, the second person coming to the door would need to know that the person it was delivered to isn't the intended recipient.

And how would they know that, if it was delivered to the original address on the package?

Is someone repackaging parcels so that the new address hasn't obviously been tampered with?

Have I missed something here? (quite likely 🙄)

[Siduhe]

It's not a new scam - I had this a few years back when someone opened a load of fake online shopping accounts in my name - but I'm sure is more prevalent now. It works like this:

Scammer orders expensive goods in name of ED resident using credit or cloned card details. DHL or similar deliver parcel with expensive goods in. As soon as possible after real delivery, fake DHL driver knocks on door and says "oops, did you get a wrong delivery - our fault - I've come to take the parcel back". If the resident hands back the parcel, then the scammer gets to go off with the goods.

In my case, I knew I hadn't ordered a tonne of men's clothes from Very and was on the phone with them when the scammer rang my door, but even though I had a strong suspicion it was a scam, he was totally convincing - even tried to take the phone off me to speak to Very to explain it was a delivery mistake. I can understand why people would hand back the parcel, even if they opened it and didn't think they had ordered it.

[JohnL]

Brideshead Wrote:

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> How can personal data be posted online just

> because a copper wrote it in a notebook?

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> Would breach all sorts of privacy law

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> Don?t think so mate

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> Don?t talk silly please

I mean into police and security service records - online in this case meaning police computer systems - not internet online

Maybe I'm an old fashioned IT guy - but online to me means digitised.

[Sue]

Siduhe Wrote:

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> It's not a new scam - I had this a few years back

> when someone opened a load of fake online shopping

> accounts in my name - but I'm sure is more

> prevalent now. It works like this:

>

> Scammer orders expensive goods in name of ED

> resident using credit or cloned card details. DHL

> or similar deliver parcel with expensive goods in.

> As soon as possible after real delivery, fake DHL

> driver knocks on door and says "oops, did you get

> a wrong delivery - our fault - I've come to take

> the parcel back". If the resident hands back the

> parcel, then the scammer gets to go off with the

> goods.

>

> In my case, I knew I hadn't ordered a tonne of

> men's clothes from Very and was on the phone with

> them when the scammer rang my door, but even

> though I had a strong suspicion it was a scam, he

> was totally convincing - even tried to take the

> phone off me to speak to Very to explain it was a

> delivery mistake. I can understand why people

> would hand back the parcel, even if they opened it

> and didn't think they had ordered it.

Ah ok, that makes sense, thanks.

[Brideshead]

John L

OK I get what you mean

In that case I agree

[Brideshead]

The ?Tried to deliver? card scam very famous and quite old

20 years this scam has been running & running

They make the money when you call up the premium rate number

Then you get stung out of ?9.99 when it connects

Surprise surprise nothing was done

None of the millions thieved was ever recovered.

Modern version is the Royal Mail customs charge sms message.

The world?s scammers seem to flock to the United Kingdom, hey! Wonder why? 🤔

[sharrison1]

Such a shame - it's happened to me more then a few times