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rahrahrah Wrote:

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> It?s interesting how many people claim to be in

> favour of reducing car use, reducing pollution and

> increasing walking and cycling yet oppose every

> effort to actually achieve these things.


I'm in favour of reducing car use by other people.

The posters on this thread need to open their eyes and see that ULEZ type restrictions are happening all over the world and across most major cities in the UK. This is not about a mayor lining the coffers (and heaven forbit the prejudiced claptrap about it going into his own pockets), it is about one major city following the same logical steps as all others. Still it's nice to see Mr Fararge, every racist's friend, joining the anti-green movement.

Soylent Green Wrote:

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> The posters on this thread need to open their eyes

> and see that ULEZ type restrictions are happening

> all over the world and across most major cities in

> the UK. This is not about a mayor lining the

> coffers (and heaven forbit the prejudiced claptrap

> about it going into his own pockets), it is about

> one major city following the same logical steps as

> all others. Still it's nice to see Mr Fararge,

> every racist's friend, joining the anti-green

> movement.


I would like to hear what major cities in england are using ulez type restrictions

other than London. I also dont recall reading on here that he is lining is own pockets

it is funding his london transport.

lots of us like myself own vehicles pay insurance taxes on petrol/diesel also road tax.

Older vehicles are leaving gradually due to wear and tear.

His not reaping enough so he is now spreading misery to the M25.

Many European countries have had these in place for a number of years. We are behind the curve in the UK, Labour proposing a national standard but the coalition pushing back on this. It took the Supreme Court in 2016 to change the landscape. Although in 2015 the then Mayor announced the introduction of the ULEZ after his school mate Cameron wouldn't give him the extra dosh to tackle London's poor air quality. It's nice to post facts rather than opinion.


Edited, good to have opinion but at times nice for things to be black and white, particularly with all the anger about restrictions in cars and the general sense of entitlement

You couldn't make it up


Today there is a high pollution warning for London however even if we had a London wide ULEZ it wouldn't help as the Mayor said "we are importing pollution from the continent"


LOL is he trying to impose his car free empire across Europe 🤔😄


Regardless be careful out there if you have breathing related issues.


BBC News - High air pollution warning issued for London

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60842537

Spartacus Wrote:

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> even if we had a London wide ULEZ it

> wouldn't help as the Mayor said "we are importing

> pollution from the continent"


..."alongside a build-up of local emissions", as the article points out.


> LOL is he trying to impose his car free empire

> across Europe


London ain't car free. Wake up and smell the diesel.

CPR Dave Wrote:

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> If most particulate pollution is not from road

> traffic why do we have the Ultra Low Emission Zone

> and Low Traffic Neighbourhoods?


If your house had a leaky pipe and a hole in the roof, would you not bother fixing the pipe because the hole would still be there?

Most pollution is not from road transport, but pollution hotspots, particularly nitrogen oxides are. Hence disincentivising older more polluting diesels. When we have easterlies and it is warm and relatively still pollution can be worsened from emissions from the continent. We are blessed with clean westerlies from the Atlantic. In places like Paris when it is hot and still pollution builds up and is not well dispersed. Here they actually ban cars.
  • 2 weeks later...

Today TfL finally admitted that the expanded ULEZ didn't make as much as expected


BBC News - London's expanded ULEZ raised less revenue than expected, says TfL

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60520700


Although it still made 16million in the first month. Obviously not a deterrent if you can afford the daily charge

Spartacus Wrote:

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> Today TfL finally admitted that the expanded ULEZ

> didn't make as much as expected

>

> BBC News - London's expanded ULEZ raised less

> revenue than expected, says TfL

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60520

> 700

>

> Although it still made 16million in the first

> month. Obviously not a deterrent if you can afford

> the daily charge





If my memory serves me right, khan previously said this which is why they want to extend it further than the south & north circular

Spartacus Wrote:

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> Today TfL finally admitted that the expanded ULEZ

> didn't make as much as expected

>

> BBC News - London's expanded ULEZ raised less

> revenue than expected, says TfL

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60520

> 700



Doesn't this suggest that it's been more successful than expected in reducing the number of high polluting vehicles travelling in the zone?

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