Comediens we loath and love, starting with Ricky Gervais

[Loz]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:

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> > Stewart Lee - less funny than a dose of the

> trots

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> >"'Ouse/Ass" ... did make me cry with laughter

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> That's the great thing about comedy, isn't it?

> There's a level for everybody.

Well I like my comedians delivering comedy, not just trying to play to a political gallery. Stewart Lee is for those that like their comedy delivered in the form of a badly mumbled political lecture. It's like we never learnt anything from the Ben Elton era.

[*Bob*]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Can there be any act more pointless then telling

> someone bent over double with laughter that the

> person they're watching 'isn't funny'?

Back to this, I think.

[LondonLogCo]

Tho can we agree that Jenny Eclair is shit!

All say "I"

[woodrot]

anyone that is on BBC3 that starts with " live at the..." or is advertised heavily in the pre-xmas TV advert sellfon

Stewart Lee is close to genius - one of the few comedians I have paid money to see

[RosieH]

Stewart Lee is going to be my husband. In an entirely non-stalky, non-kill-his-wife sort of way.

Eddie Izzard will be my mistress.

[camberwell70]

Stewart Lee would be a great comedian if he was funny.

[El Pibe]

I kind of see both sides of the Stewart Lee thing.

He's clever, interesting, incisive and amusingly acerbic, but there aren't that many moments where he's actually funny as such, let's not even mention the 'sketches' eek.

A bit like Rory Bremner's satirical 'comedy' in that respect. Though Bird and Fortune can crack me up, especially when they crack up themselves.

[*Bob*]

The attempts at a TV format has always been problematic though. They're like bite-sized, watered-down chunks taken from a meticulously crafted two hour show - the parts of which all come together to make something quite unique - and yes very, very funny. But 'the funny' builds as you go. Because if you want to say something clever, interesting, incisive, acerbic - and make it funny - then machine-gunning the audience with hilarious one-liners in the first ten minutes is not going to cut it - and TV is never going to be your friend in that respect.

So if you're 'interested' but haven't seen a full show, you should go. It's seriously impressive stuff. (Unless you hate Stewart Lee - in which case you'll only hate him even more).

[woodrot]

If I want rib tickling, I go to see the chuckle brothers ( and yes, they are contemporary masters of their own very traditional genre)- if I want to think a bit, then Stewie ( as well call him ) is teh king

If you dont find his widely Utubed sketch "Emigrants" quite wonderful, then maybe its time to get the latest Micheal Macintire DVD into your amazon basket

[El Pibe]

Thanks for that bob, I've some eggs I need to find out how to suck too please.

[*Bob*]

No problem. I can speak more slowly too - if you need me to.

[El Pibe]

I get it, you find him funny.

After all there's nothing more pointless then telling someone hunched over with ennui that the person they're watching is funny.

[*Bob*]

Just assumed (from your post) you hadn't seen the live show.

My opinions largely as yours until I did. That's all..

[El Pibe]

I can see how that could be inferred.

Also I do actually like him.

SJ introduced me via one of the taped live shows years ago, and I laughed, sometimes out loud, especially the scottish paedophiles bit.

It's just the overall effect is one less of comedy than cleverly couched demagoguery with a vague air of mirth, so I was just saying I totally understand people who say he's funny and people who say he's not.

[*Bob*]

I'd be disappointed if you didn't!

Totally understand why he's not for everyone, but it's the loathing I find weird. You'd be forgiven for thinking there were hundreds of Stewart Lees up and down the land, adorning every panel show: not one with a very limited and avoidable television presence.

I expect it's probably got something to do with people going on and on and on and on and on about him until you just can't stand it any more..

[red devil]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> It's just the overall effect is one less of comedy

> than cleverly couched demagoguery with a vague air

> of mirth....

Dick Emery has the same effect on a lot of people...

 

[woodrot]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> I can see how that could be inferred.

> Also I do actually like him.

> SJ introduced me via one of the taped live shows

> years ago, and I laughed, sometimes out loud,

> especially the scottish paedophiles bit.

> It's just the overall effect is one less of comedy

> than cleverly couched demagoguery with a vague air

> of mirth, so I was just saying I totally

> understand people who say he's funny and people

> who say he's not.

maybe you has better stick to Miranda and Mrs Browns Boys then.

[maxxi]

The new "...tragedy, comedy, history, pastoral, pastoral-comical, historical-pastoral, tragical-historical, tragical-comical-historical-pastoral" I suppose:

- Political, political-psychological, political-sociological, political-psychological-satirical-sociological...

Something other than a list of gags Monkhouse/Vine style and I'm fine with it when it's Stewart Lee or Mark Thomas or a Brooker style rant but do seem to mind it a lot more when it's Mark Steel or Jeremy Hardy ... it's just a style thang.

Like the "I'm so kooky Fish banana Trousers!" approach of Noel Fielding - i USED to like it but it got old v. fast - it's not enough to just be odd - I just wish someone would tell Paul Foot that.

ETA: re Woody's post - I get why something like Miranda exists - I can see where it fits - just like that sitcom with the glasses one from mel and sue, but Mrs Browns What the fuck?! A wormhole connecting to 1974 is the only explanation.

[El Pibe]

I see what you did there woody, anyone who disagrees with you obviously has the intellectual capacity of sloth and watches stuff for the lobotomised masses.

I wish I was as clever as you, really I do.

Besides if you want real comedy Ben & Holly's little Kingdom is far and away the best thing around.

[El Pibe]

actually thinking about it, SJ can't have introduced me to him as I used to watch Fist of Fun and This Morning with Richard Not Judy.

Though I think it was Richard Herring's whiney desperation to be loved that really struck a chord!!

[*Bob*]

Some acts I remember enjoying a millenia ago (probably on Saturday Live, or was it Saturday Night Live?)

Dom Irrera

Emo Phillips

Steve (someone or other - American, deadpan philosophical mumblings)

Wonder if they're still funny now.

[red devil]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Steve (someone or other - American, deadpan

> philosophical mumblings)

Steve Wright in the afternoon...

 

[*Bob*]

That's him!

[*Bob*]

Dom Irrera is still funny

(There goes the afternoon)

 

[woodrot]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> I see what you did there woody, anyone who

> disagrees with you obviously has the intellectual

> capacity of sloth and watches stuff for the

> lobotomised masses.

> I wish I was as clever as you, really I do.

>

nope, not really,as I said, I like the chuckle brothers- its pure traditional stupidity and I do laugh at it.

tsk, tsk - dont take eveerything so personal - its not like meatspace here you know - its randoms from penge with too much time on their hands