cyclists paying road tax

[LadyDeliah]

You couldn't restrain a 10 year old?

[LadyDeliah]

Crap argument for compulsory insurance and registration by the way if he's only 10 years old!

[Loz]

I think you still have an legal obligation to report the accident. ghf.

[glasshalffull]

Of course I could have, but what would that have led too? A 6 1/2 ft 16 stone man restraining a 10 year old child that is unknown to them, use a bit of common sense.

Crap argument? Don't flatter yourself Lady D I have no need seek an argument with you, you are more than capable of weakening the cyclists position with every post you make.

[LadyDeliah]

So if a ten year old threw a brick through your window, are you telling me that you wouldn't restrain him and call the police?

[Loz]

To be fair, I wouldn't restrain a 10 year old - or any minor - unless you had a *lot* of witnesses. That's begging for the sort of retaliatory false allegation that would appear on an enhanced CRB check (or whatever it is called these days).

[DJKillaQueen]

I agree with LD on VED. Roads maintenance and infrastructure is NOT paid for from this. And we all pay taxes that are spent on things we don't directly benefit from too. So people who don't use the roads at all, are paying for them as much as any tax paying cyclist is.

But even if for one moment we do entertain the idea of taxing cyclists....there are other problems. To enforce tax there needs to be a registration process. Numbers plates have to be of a size and in a certain location for ease of reading. Bicyles are not designed for this. Also cyclists can be of any age.

As already stated VED is designed to tax emmissions, which is why some motor vehicles pay no VED. Some motorcycles pay as little as ?17.00 per year. Making cyclists pay VED would actually create a system far more expensive to enforce than the revenue raised by the VED on them anyway.

Insurance I have mixed feelings about. I now have cycle insurance after having had an accident which was my fault (mechanical failure on my bicycle) and causing damage to a vehicle. I broke my arm too. The driver had to go through his insurance because of the damage and was very good natured about it but after that I thought it perhaps fair that I cover myself. So I think cycle public liability insurance should be encouraged (for lots of reasons) but would stop short of making it compulsary.

[LadyDeliah]

Loz Wrote:

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> To be fair, I wouldn't restrain a 10 year old - or

> any minor - unless you had a *lot* of witnesses.

> That's begging for the sort of retaliatory false

> allegation that would appear on an enhanced CRB

> check (or whatever it is called these days).

I'm a mother and grandmother (still hot tho!) so I'd have no qualms about grabbing some little shit by the scruff of his neck until the police / parent came for him. I've done it when a group of about 6 little Pre-teens tried to steal my bike from the back of my (old) office in Peckham.

I gave him a severe bollocking with his mates jeering him from a safe distance. I threatened to call the police on him and he was embarrassed and was pretty scared, so after telling him what a stupid like idiot he was, I let him go.

Not sure how much impact it had, but my 23 year old daughter was there having a go at him too and she's seriously scary!

[DulwichFox]

LadyDeliah wrote:

Lard arses, well it's been proven that car drivers tend to become less active, making unesseary short journeys by car resulting in an increase in all the diseased associated with sedentary lifestyles.

Yes I use my car for short journeys when I go to Tescos..

The only reason I still have a car is for 15 years I took my 85 year old disabled mother shopping and to her

regular doctors trips... My Mum died April 2012..

I developed type-2 diabetes 2 years afo despite walking up to 5 miles a day for the last 8 years and being

under 9 stone.. Hardly a Lardy inactive fellow..

I would be happy to invite you for one of my longer walks..then we would find out who is sedentry.

..and I am in my 60's

You really need to think more before you post here..

Foxy

[Earl Aelfheah]

There is no such thing as 'road tax' so the simple answer is no. Should they pay vehicle excise duty? Well as they are in the zero emissions category, they would be zero rated - so pay exactly nought. Not sure therefore what your point is.

[natty01295]

the Road tax or VED for cyclists, Would be FREE because they are a clean vehicle with no emissions

[natty01295]

http://money.aol.co.uk/2013/05/23/should-cyclists-pay-a-road-tax/

[natty01295]

http://metro.co.uk/2011/11/20/irresponsible-cyclists-should-pay-road-tax-say-quarter-of-drivers-in-confused-com-study-226041/