Spartacus Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 As a ploy to scrap the No. 12 bus route, the frequency was reduced from every 5 minutes to every 12 minutes about a year ago. The claim that covid had reduced passenger numbers was touted as a reason at the time. Now that the No. 12 is safe (for the time being) and (according to WHO) Covid is over, passenger numbers have started to steadily increase to a point where the infrequently of the No. 12 makes it crowded at most times of the day. Isn't it time for residents and councillors to campaign to TfL to increase the frequency of this much used bus route again ? 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froglander Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Yes. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1622867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleton Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 I feel the same about the short ED trains! 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1623011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWave Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Yes definitely !!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1623024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share Posted June 7, 2023 TfL claim they are 90% back to pre pandemic usage on the network https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65821633 Yet still the no 12 is a reduced service and packed most days. What can we and the councillors do ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1626096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted August 10, 2023 Author Share Posted August 10, 2023 TfL are launching a campaign "highlighting the value and benefits public transport offers people with all travel needs and budgets", the organisation said. This comes as they say buses are near pre pandemic levels of usage. BBC News - Tube passenger numbers at 85% of pre-Covid levels, says TfLhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66451211 with this information, why are we still suffering a reduction in bus capacity locally (no 12 for instance) as logically increasing frequency will help get more people using buses and out of other forms of transport. and before anyone uses the "cars slow buses down" line, the 12 was reduced due to falling numbers during covid. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1633875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Unlike LTNs and CPZ, working to improve and increase bus and train services was a Southwark Labour manifesto promise. Can anyone say what has been achieved to date, locally? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1633897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bea1 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 TFL dont like people who live in south london crossing the river Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1639640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 I thought that was black taxi drivers from Essex ? 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1639670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted February 15, 2024 Author Share Posted February 15, 2024 Just seen that the no 12 service has been changed to every 13 minutes https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/bus-changes#on-this-page-1 So rather than adding more buses make it a reliable service, TFL have made it more sparse and therefore more crowded and reduced the impetus to use public transport 🤔 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1655927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanlanf Posted February 15, 2024 Share Posted February 15, 2024 Up north or anyway outside London, you’d be lucky to get one bus an hour. Still a good service in the grand scheme of things. Maybe just get the 40 to Elephant and Castle and swap buses there? 😴 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1655934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted February 15, 2024 Share Posted February 15, 2024 (edited) On 15/02/2024 at 13:31, hanlanf said: Up north or anyway outside London, you’d be lucky to get one bus an hour. Still a good service in the grand scheme of things. Maybe just get the 40 to Elephant and Castle and swap buses there? 😴 Expand When I lived in the country, there was one bus a WEEK to the nearest large town, in the morning, and one bus back in the afternoon of the same day. This was to enable people to do their weekly shop. Luckily, I had a car 🤣 I haven't had any issues with the 12. We are lucky that it starts at the top of Barry Road, so at least going in that direction it is easy to get a seat. Although if you are going further than Peckham it's quicker, as you say, to get another bus and change, because the 12 goes a very long way round to get to Camberwell Green and onwards from there ... Edited February 15, 2024 by Sue Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/326203-no-12-bus-route-frequency/#findComment-1655969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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