Has anyone had placenta capsules made?

[El Pibe]

Many things that revolt us are genetically in built, the smells of putrescence, the idea of incest and so forth.

If we were still evolving (we're not really at the moment) and revulsion of coriander (gene OR6A2), given a few millennia of coriander being especially harmful to ones ability to survive/reproduce, meant we were _all_ revolted, then there'd be good reason for our revulsion.

Revulsion isn't always thus of course, but I think that earlier article specualtes that it might be the reason we don't do it whilst other animals do.

Who knows, either way keeping placentas in your attic, capsules, having a fry up with a nice chilled chianti and some flava beans, you're all barking mad ;)

[TE44]

Ha ha El Phibe my mums thoughts as well, said she'd never heard the like,

Yes that makes sense Otta, I think a lot of my mates felt the benefits in the same

way as you would if your birth had went well, or even when it didn't its a chance to

do something for yourself. Thhis is not saying intervention is not needed, but Many of my mates

have felt in previous births intervention escalated to the point they felt helpless, with no chance

of being able to go with what they felt only take instruction.

[Otta]

I guess there is a lot to be said for placebo even if it's not ACTUALLY benefitting you it could psychologically do some good.

[reeko]

Placebo placenta does have a pleasing ring to it

[Yuuna]

El Pibe, I'm not sure the 'idea of incest' being revolting is 'genetically inbuilt'. Ancient societies, such as the Egyptians, had incest as a part of their culture. Similarly the ancient Greeks had the practice of pederasty as a part of their culture. It's only social influence/indoctrination and such that would make consumption of the afterbirth revolting. If we were raised in a society that had this practice as a normal, regular occurence, we would likely think nothing of it. However, I'm not sure how incest compares to placentophaghy.

I think that the incidence of placenta placebo effect likely exists. That's how I tend to view any perceived/reported benefits of eating placenta, especially in capsule form. If people are open to believing these capsules will have a positive benefit and they do; is that bad? No; I am a believer in positive thinking bringing about positive outcomes. Similarly I could believe that eating an apple a day truly will keep the doctor away and not get ill. Either way, would we definitively be able to tell if it was the belief itself or the food or maybe both that brought benefits? Does it even matter? All I know is I rarely see the doctor and I do like my apples...

[hellosailor]

Otta Wrote:

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> I guess there is a lot to be said for placebo even

> if it's not ACTUALLY benefitting you it could

> psychologically do some good.

Yes that's my thinking. I can never say for sure that the capsules helped me but the feeling that I was doing everything I could to have a better post partum period than after my first, kind of covering all bases, was psychologically a good thing for me. If it was a placebo effect then I don't mind, it amounts to the same thing!

[El Pibe]

well, incest creates nothing but evolutionary dead ends, so it's unproven but not improbable that it being taboo across societies is at least influenced by genetics.

The Egyptians didn't practice it as a society (if they had they certainly wouldn't have perservered for so long), their royals did, and records that prove they did it tell us nothing about how they felt about it.

In fact European monarchies did it as a matter of course too, all the rulers of warring parties in the first world war could call each aother 'cousin willie' etc.

Greek pederasty, a period of young adulthood where men are encouraged to have a love affair with a male adolescent for a couple of years, has, by definition, nothing to say from an evolutionary perspective, so is something of a non sequitur.

The incest - placentophaghy comparison is that the lack of prevalence may* be genetically inspired, as may* be most peoples squeamishness towards the subjects. Which might also explain why some people may not have a problem/specific receptor.

Aaaaaanyway, as you were. As said before, if that's what someone wants to do then more power them, let's hope its not actually harmful.

*of course without some serious research/testing it's simply an unproven hypothesis, an opinion if you will.

[LondonMix]

Yuuna Wrote:

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> I think that the incidence of placenta placebo

> effect likely exists. That's how I tend to view

> any perceived/reported benefits of eating

> placenta, especially in capsule form. If people

> are open to believing these capsules will have a

> positive benefit and they do; is that bad? \

Well as long as they understand that it might be harmful to specific groups or under specific circumstances. Doing something for a potential placebo effect without a clear understanding of the potential risks is of course everyone's choice but I can't say that I think its a choice with no potential downside...

[reeko]

LondonMix Wrote:

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> Yuuna Wrote:

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> > I think that the incidence of placenta placebo

> > effect likely exists. That's how I tend to view

> > any perceived/reported benefits of eating

> > placenta, especially in capsule form. If people

> > are open to believing these capsules will have

> a

> > positive benefit and they do; is that bad? \

>

>

> Well as long as they understand that it might be

> harmful to specific groups or under specific

> circumstances. Doing something for a potential

> placebo affect without a clear understanding of

> the potential risks is of course everyone's choice

> but I can't say that I think its a choice with no

> potential downside...

And don't forget the people profiteering from selling people unproven 'therapies'

[Otta]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-27299259

[Earl Aelfheah]

To have raw human meat processed for you to eat, by an unregulated cottage industry, seems fraught with risks. I have no idea whether the health claims made for placenta captures are true, but then I suspect nobody really does (as there's a lack of good quality double blind studies). I would encourage people to approach such matters with a healthy degree of caution /skepticism.