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StraferJack Wrote:

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> What about Pellegrini's comments regarding the ref

> after the game?


Words of a man under pressure? This is the competition that City's heirarchy are desparate to do well in.

Would they see last 16 as a failure? At least Chewy will now stop mouthing off about the quadruple...

Mick Mac Wrote:

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>

> And Scott Brown after Neymar play acting. Not that

> it would have made much difference in the end.

>

>



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

What a complete load of bollox.

Valiant effort by the Arsenal, for the first 30 minutes I thought we were better than Bayern, no problem with the sending off or the red card. Mountain to climb now. How is it we pay 42 million for the only German who can't score penalties? Sonogo looks a decent prospect.

What are your thoughts on Ozil at this stage PD? Was chatting to a gooner friend (season ticket holder) the other week, and he was saying he's not a great individual, but a player that works well within a team. Just seems to me that if you're paying ?42m, you want a player that can win a match for you when you're struggling. What do you reckon?


I have no particular opinion by the way, as I've not watched him that closely, just interested to know whether you see things the same as another gooner or if you have a different take on it.

There's no doubt Ozil is a great talent but we knew he wouldn't be the type that digs in and tracks back when we took him on. When he has the likes of Ramsey and Walcott to run in behind he is infinitely better. The player has come from a league where they have a Winter break, as he did with his German club, and is probably still adjusting to the pace and physicality or the Prem. Overall I'm glad we've got him and I think he'll improve.

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> There's no doubt Ozil is a great talent but we

> knew he wouldn't be the type that digs in and

> tracks back when we took him on. When he has the

> likes of Ramsey and Walcott to run in behind he is

> infinitely better. The player has come from a

> league where they have a Winter break, as he did

> with his German club, and is probably still

> adjusting to the pace and physicality or the Prem.

> Overall I'm glad we've got him and I think he'll

> improve.



Having spoken to a German friend and big German football fan; he said that Ozil isn't the kind of player to take the game by the scruff of the neck when all around him are struggling (like for example a Gerrard would). He's most effective when he has exactly the kind of players around him that he likes and at the moment is alost certainly missing Walcott and Ramsey. He also suggested that he'd be a good player in the Premier League if he was at a club he wanted to be at (like Werder Bremen and Real Madrid previously), but he was desperate not to leave RM and couldn't give two hoots about Arsenal, but was sacrficed to make room and money for Bale.




A spurs fan tweeted earlier today, "Thanks for the Special Relationship @RealMadrid, you nearly fooled us with the Ozil transfer"

titch juicy Wrote:

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> Parkdrive Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > There's no doubt Ozil is a great talent but we

> > knew he wouldn't be the type that digs in and

> > tracks back when we took him on. When he has

> the

> > likes of Ramsey and Walcott to run in behind he

> is

> > infinitely better. The player has come from a

> > league where they have a Winter break, as he

> did

> > with his German club, and is probably still

> > adjusting to the pace and physicality or the

> Prem.

> > Overall I'm glad we've got him and I think

> he'll

> > improve.

>

>

> Having spoken to a German friend and big German

> football fan; he said that Ozil isn't the kind of

> player to take the game by the scruff of the neck

> when all around him are struggling (like for

> example a Gerrard would). He's most effective when

> he has exactly the kind of players around him that

> he likes and at the moment is alost certainly

> missing Walcott and Ramsey. He also suggested that

> he'd be a good player in the Premier League if he

> was at a club he wanted to be at (like Werder

> Bremen and Real Madrid previously), but he was

> desperate not to leave RM and couldn't give two

> hoots about Arsenal, but was sacrficed to make

> room and money for Bale.

>

>

>

> A spurs fan tweeted earlier today, "Thanks for the

> Special Relationship @RealMadrid, you nearly

> fooled us with the Ozil transfer"


Instead you've landed Soldado, Lamella and all those other top notch players to propel you to the top of the league, and flogged Bale. Smart move.

titch juicy Wrote:

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> Parkdrive Wrote:

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> -----

> > So Carlo Ancelloti saying it was a mistake to

> sell

> > Ozil was just a smoke screen? Spurs fans eh?

>

> eh? i think you might have missed the point of the

> tweet


Think so? I don't

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> titch juicy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Parkdrive Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > So Carlo Ancelloti saying it was a mistake to

> > sell

> > > Ozil was just a smoke screen? Spurs fans eh?

> >

> > eh? i think you might have missed the point of

> the

> > tweet

>

> Think so? I don't


So, how does Ancelotti not wanting to get rid of Ozil, have any relevance to a Spurs fan sarcastically saying that they thought RM had fooled us by flogging one of their best players to our main rivals, making us think that our special relationship was a rather one way affair, then realising that actualy they sold them a dud?

titch juicy Wrote:

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> Parkdrive Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > titch juicy Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > Parkdrive Wrote:

> > >

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> >

> > > -----

> > > > So Carlo Ancelloti saying it was a mistake

> to

> > > sell

> > > > Ozil was just a smoke screen? Spurs fans

> eh?

> > >

> > > eh? i think you might have missed the point

> of

> > the

> > > tweet

> >

> > Think so? I don't

>

> So, how does Ancelotti not wanting to get rid of

> Ozil, have any relevance to a Spurs fan

> sarcastically saying that they thought RM had

> fooled us by flogging one of their best players to

> our main rivals, making us think that our special

> relationship was a rather one way affair, then

> realising that actualy they sold them a dud?



A dud? Did you watch Spurs play last night against the mighty Dinipro? A team full of duds. Soldado one of your stellar summer signings missing spectactulary from 4 yards, 8 yards closer than Ozils pen, and failing to score, yet again. I think you should look closer to home find duds. Like I said before Spurs fans eh? A gift that never stops giving.

I'm so sorry- i thought we were talking about Ozil.


I'm happy to admit we were below par last night- however, after his miss (...and if you looked closely enough it bobbled up just before he hit, hence it coming off his shin) Soldado went looking for the ball at every opportunity, trying desperately to make amends. After Ozil's miss he went into hiding, started sulking and stopped running.


But if you're happy with that from a ?42m player, then fine.

Quids did say 'at present' which could often be applied to very good players at points in their careers. Rooney is a good example. There have been times when he couldn't trap a bag of cement. Ozil is no dud but he does look tired for want to a better word. After his first few games he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. As they say, form is temporary but class is permanent.


Now, how many more cliches can I fit in one post?

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