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???? Wrote:

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> The irony is that many of us over 40 felt like

> that about Liverpool once, but that has generally

> worn off over time



Can well believe it and agree it would be the same with any team successful for an extended period, but for the past 20 years that team has been United without a doubt.


As I said earlier though, my issue with them was always very much about Ferguson. Great great manager no doubt, but also an off putting egomaniac. Wouldn't be surprised if in his next autobiography he claims he picked someone sure to fail on purpose just to reiterate how great he had been.


Personally though I don't think Moyes is as bad as a lot if people are claiming and feel he should be given one summer and season after this to prove himself. Looking less likely though.

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> red devil Wrote:

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> > Like I said, obsessed...

>

>

> Hook, line and sinker.



Oh the Irons!...just for you maxxi, don't be a stranger ;-)

Otta Wrote:

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> Personally though I don't think Moyes is as bad as

> a lot if people are claiming and feel he should be

> given one summer and season after this to prove

> himself. Looking less likely though.



As many have already said, this would be massive job for most. Possibly hiring someone from within the club may have been a better option. Someone like Moyes coming in cold, this particular job may be too much for them. That isn't really a criticism of Moyes but he has come from somewhere with no pressure to a cauldron.

Realistically, I think it will take a good two to three years to rebuild Man Utd. I'm not sure if Moyes will be given that time. Ferguson was but we are living in different times. It's taken Liverpool a number of years to get back to the club they were, though they've won nothing yet I'm sure it won't be long before they do.
Post Busby the team was in decline as Georgie Best knew. Frank O'Farrell and Dave Sexton, two much admired managers both failed at OT. It took two managers with big egos, Tommy Doc and Big Ron, to bring back some excitement for United followers.I can remember when the FA Cup mattered and the excitement of getting to a semi or even a final. Both managed to do this. I suspect Moyes is more of an O'Farrell or Sexton, humble guys. United may need an ego to restart them. Who could that be?

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> I think the point Barclay was making was that he

> doesn't believe United could ever rely on Rooney

> in the same way Gerrard has lifted Pool over the

> years and got stuck in when the the going got

> tough, despite the sack loads of money they've

> thrown at Rooney.


That's how i read it, and it's fair comment

With some hindsight, I think Utd should have got someone big from overseas to start fresh.....maybe they tried. Moyes looks out of his depth, the pressure's enormous and SAF was given time but did have an extraordinary CV behind him even then......


Moyes to a degree was an internal appointment.

???? Wrote:

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> With some hindsight, I think Utd should have got

> someone big from overseas to start fresh.....maybe

> they tried. Moyes looks out of his depth, the

> pressure's enormous and SAF was given time but did

> have an extraordinary CV behind him even

> then......

>

> Moyes to a degree was an internal appointment.


The penny has dropped :)

I think the reason a lot of managers who've worked with Defoe haven't given him enough starts is that he doesn't do much in build up play. His work is done in the last third. You'll rarely get an assist from him but he knows where the goal is that's for sure. Sad to see him go. Been a great servant to our club and has never moaned when he wasn't playing, he just worked harder to get back in.


Over the two legs Konoplyanka impressed me enormously. Literally no one could get anywhere near him. If he gets a big move and I'm certain he will he'll be a huge asset to any club that buys him. A fantastic player.

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> I think the reason a lot of managers who've worked

> with Defoe haven't given him enough starts is that

> he doesn't do much in build up play. His work is

> done in the last third. You'll rarely get an

> assist from him but he knows where the goal is

> that's for sure. Sad to see him go. Been a great

> servant to our club and has never moaned when he

> wasn't playing, he just worked harder to get back

> in.

>

> Over the two legs Konoplyanka impressed me

> enormously. Literally no one could get anywhere

> near him. If he gets a big move and I'm certain he

> will he'll be a huge asset to any club that buys

> him. A fantastic player.


defoes finishing and the fact that he didn't complain, as you, when left out did him great credit. Unlike some of the spoilt prima donnas could take a leaf out of his book. I hope he does well.

maxxi Wrote:

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> JD: "As much as I love Tottenham I feel that now

> is the right time for me to move on in my career.

> This is very much a career decision. I am very

> ambitious and hungry to achieve at the highest

> levels of the game for both club and country."


Arf! In Toronto? Yeah right, that's 60 grand a week tax free talking right there.

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