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I really don't see it that way RD


Arsenal shot themselves in the foot at home (again) and performed decently away. Nothing invincible about BM


It's the sort of fixture that can transform the Moyes era if they pull it off


Going to be some cracking tv over these matches

I'm going to embrace the underdog role BR, it's a win win situation ;-)

SJ is right, until Arsenal went down to 10 men they more than held their own. The first leg is key, if we go out gung ho they'll just pick us off, a low scoring draw would set up the 2nd leg nicely...

StraferJack Wrote:

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> a lot to agree with there - I would say

> dissapointing rather than big negative. I would

> also say that he never went out of his way to

> clobber a team like Man Utd did that day and that

> was a positive


Due to the lightheadness of drawing Bayern, forgot to ask earlier, what did you mean exactly?..

Yeah if we had lost game 50 to say... Derby playing like that I'd get it


It is a backhanded compliment but it still irks. Teenage Rooney and vanN. I think it sowed the seed of doubt in arsenal teams to this day. So you can definitely say it was worth it from a united perspective


But I do think less of Man U because of it as well

Anyone got an opinion on Boyd's 3 match ban for spitting at Joe Hart? (BR I'd be interested in your take).


First of all, he dived, no question. But I thought Hart's reaction was out of order, and I thought when I first saw it on MOTD, that looks really bad in slow mo, but he's basically shouting in Hart's face, he hasn't gobbed at him.


I still think that, and was surprised he got the ban.

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Yeah if we had lost game 50 to say... Derby

> playing like that I'd get it

>

> It is a backhanded compliment but it still irks.

> Teenage Rooney and vanN. I think it sowed the seed

> of doubt in arsenal teams to this day. So you can

> definitely say it was worth it from a united

> perspective

>

> But I do think less of Man U because of it as well


Don't you think the previous year's fixture at OT might have something to do with their approach? Van the man got a lot of stick and players from both side got bans as a result of it (more from Arsenal). So regardless of what might have been at stake it was going to be feisty.

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Clue was in the phrase world football Alan.

>

> So France team of 98 -2000 ish

>

> I expect you already knew that tho...


That's a bit like saying England are from London. I could only think of Ajax and that was stretching it a bit.


As for the Wanderers....they have reformed and play at Belair Park in some Surrey league. Any other Wanderers would just be a fake imitation......

Otta Wrote:

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> First of all, he dived, no question. But I thought

> Hart's reaction was out of order, and I thought

> when I first saw it on MOTD, that looks really bad

> in slow mo, but he's basically shouting in Hart's

> face, he hasn't gobbed at him.


England player escapes ban in World Cup year shocker.

I agree that Boyd didn't deliberatey spit at Hart.

Do the FA ever give a written explanation as to how the independent panel arives at a judgement?

If not, it would help...

I'm talking about Woolwich Wanderers, the club they call the Arsenal.


Going back to SJ's thing about Reyes getting roughed up. He couldn't hack British football. He'd go over with a gust of wind. He was an easy target. It's no wonder he soon went back to Spain. They've been plenty of Arsenal players over the years who could cut it rough if they wanted to.

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