Football Focus

[Parkdrive]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> so you have seen worse times than this, right?

>

> You spent your money, went to the games, supported

> the club

>

> but now, NOW you have "had enough"?

Yes I've seen a lot worse, cheers Terry Neil & Bruce Rioch, but in recent times we've been constantly promised better things, and they've not materialised. We've bought Ozil and Sanchez granted, but in my view, they are players we didn't really need, and we have far greater needs, a central defender, defensive midfielder and a striker. The club hasn't been honest with the fans for years, and enough is enough. And yes I know football is a business, so as a business if you charge premier prices I expect premier players, and I haven't seen that at Arsenal especially since the move to the new ground.

[StraferJack]

we have been promised better things - in in the last two seasons we have started to see better things

yes we are charging more that most (all?) but nor do we have the squillionaire backers like City or Chelsea so we do what we can

Man Utd are taking a massive gamble on their current signings - if they don't get CL next season, they are going to fnid it very hard to make the numbers add up

I don't understand why Arsenal didn't sign a couple of defensive players before yesterday but I somehow doubt it didn't occur to the club - it didn't happen because it didn't happen. So now the season has started we can concentrate on the bleedin football

We will be fine - we will live...enjoy the life you have chosen instead of getting so angry about a bunch of millionaires who you have zero control over

[Parkdrive]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> we have been promised better things - in in the

> last two seasons we have started to see better

> things

>

> yes we are charging more that most (all?) but nor

> do we have the squillionaire backers like City or

> Chelsea so we do what we can

>

> Man Utd are taking a massive gamble on their

> current signings - if they don't get CL next

> season, they are going to fnid it very hard to

> make the numbers add up

>

> I don't understand why Arsenal didn't sign a

> couple of defensive players before yesterday but I

> somehow doubt it didn't occur to the club - it

> didn't happen because it didn't happen. So now the

> season has started we can concentrate on the

> bleedin football

>

>

> We will be fine - we will live...enjoy the life

> you have chosen instead of getting so angry about

> a bunch of millionaires who you have zero control

> over

Easy to say, but the club has been part of my life since 1968, and the fact that it's now run by millionaires with little or no love or understanding of the game,that's what really pisses me off. Peoples game my arse.

[Otta]

Bloody gell SJ, if the man is pissed and feels he's had enough so be it. I'm sure PD will have cheerier days this season, stop being so bloody reasonable all the time.

[Otta]

red devil Wrote:

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> Radamel fooking Falcao :)...

But central midfield and defence?

Is this a case of score more than we conceed and hope that's enough (much like Liverpool last season)?

[Mick Mac]

StraferJack Wrote:

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>

> I wouldn't be happy if we were paying that - it's

> not sustainable, and would create discontent in

> dressing room. So we could afford it but we

> haven't. Let's see where teams sit at season end

> eh?

You don't have to - the Arsenal model has already failed for 8 seasons - that's prob what PD means by having had enough.

Sometimes SJ I think you should try getting really pissed off about your teams lack of achievement and show us you are a real fan.

[StraferJack]

fine Otta fine

I LOVE living in a world where grown men spend 24 hours spouting bile and shite online (not PD specifically here - any football forum or social media outlet)

In no way does it make me feel like the planet is screwed because grown, adult human beings can't get some perspective about something so STOOPID and inconsequential as football

You think PD et al are just venting and they'll be fine tomorrow? Nope - too many eggs in one basket for that..

[StraferJack]

"the Arsenal model has already failed for 8 seasons"

I disagree - I keep saying it but compared to the forces we are up against financially, we are balanced and well-placed. Once Wenger goes, we will likely tumble into the mediocrity that PD thinks we are now

Who do I have to show I am "a real fan" and why?

[Otta]

But if it's so stupid (which basically it is) why do you even care?

[Otta]

I think Welbeck could do well if allowed to play as a striker, and Arsenal fans I know seem to think so too.

Bit you (SJ) are the only one I know that isn't feeling a bit disappointed having seen other strikers moving to other clubs for not huge amounts of money.

[Otta]

Although I wouldn't want to spend what United are spending on Falcao in one season.

[Bluerevolution]

Falcao turned down by several clubs-Real Madrid, City-due to serious knee injuries, best of luck with that one !!! Oh and where are the right wing CB's ?

[Jah Lush]

Permit me for saying so but I think SJ has made some very fair points. I'm not a fan of Welbeck but I think he'll do a good job at Le Arse. The Professor will turn him into a much better player.

The comparison if you want it PD is at Man Utd. They have spent an absolute fortune in this window. The risk is immense. Falcao is a really huge expensive gamble. Rumoured to have a dodgy knee, on astronomical wages and no real creative quality in midfield to supply him.

I'm fairly happy with our buys at Spurs. I loved Sandro and am a little sad to see him go but since his injuries he has lost a lot of his mobility. The fact only QPR were in for him says a lot. Stambouli looks like an excellent purchase as a replacement and a lot cheaper than Schiederlin would have cost.

[Alan Medic]

Bluerevolution Wrote:

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> Falcao turned down by several clubs-Real Madrid,

> City-due to serious knee injuries, best of luck

> with that one !!! Oh and where are the right wing

> CB's ?

Thought that was more to do with the Financial Fair Play regulations.

[Alan Medic]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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>

> The comparison if you want it PD is at Man Utd.

> They have spent an absolute fortune in this

> window. The risk is immense. Falcao is a really

> huge expensive gamble. Rumoured to have a dodgy

> knee, on astronomical wages and no real creative

> quality in midfield to supply him.

I believe Monaco are paying a fair chunk of his wages and I suspect the gamble was due to United not being sure about RVP's fitness. I think if they play a 3-0-7 formation they can bypass the need for creativity in the middle and just score goals up the top end.

[Mick Mac]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> "the Arsenal model has already failed for 8

> seasons"

>

> I disagree - I keep saying it but compared to the

> forces we are up against financially, we are

> balanced and well-placed. Once Wenger goes, we

> will likely tumble into the mediocrity that PD

> thinks we are now

>

> Who do I have to show I am "a real fan" and why?

Your balanced opinions have worn me down SJ. For once, just have a bit of a shout - get it all out, speak without thinking. Will do you good.

[StraferJack]

"get it all out, speak without thinking. Will do you good."

given that that's what most footie fans on talksport/forums do all the time, i'm disinclined to see how it does anyone any good - so I'll stick with plan A, ta

[????]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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>

> Your balanced opinions have worn me down SJ. For

> once, just have a bit of a shout - get it all out,

> speak without thinking. Will do you good.

Why don't you ever say that to me Mick?

[Parkdrive]

All I can say is I hope I'm proved wrong, but to me this just highlights the clubs failure to deliver against promises of delivery world class players, and wanting us to stump up silly money to attend games.

[StraferJack]

Yep, two club record signings, ,smashing previous records without any multi-billionaire owners

makes you wonder where the ticket prices go eh?

[Parkdrive]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Yep, two club record signings, ,smashing previous

> records without any multi-billionaire owners

>

> makes you wonder where the ticket prices go eh?

Paying our ticket prices is a bit like going to the Ivy and paying their prices and getting a Pizza Express meal.

[Jah Lush]

Ha! Sanchez and Ozil a combined purchase of ?90 million. You're having a laugh PD.

[Parkdrive]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Ha! Sanchez and Ozil a combined purchase of ?90

> million. You're having a laugh PD.

But the point Jah, is, as I've said before, we didn't actually NEED these guys. No question they are quality, but we should have spent the money on players to fill positions we most needed filling, CB, DM, and a striker. Wellbeck may prove me wrong, but the other two positions have not been properly sorted, and that's been the case for a while.

[Mick Mac]

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> Mick Mac Wrote:

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> >

> > Your balanced opinions have worn me down SJ.

> For

> > once, just have a bit of a shout - get it all

> out,

> > speak without thinking. Will do you good.

>

>

> Why don't you ever say that to me Mick?

Indeed. Haha.

[SCSB79]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> From nout to two strikers - signed in 30 minutes

> of the deadline...."Things looked touch and go

> earlier today but Celtic pulled a late double

> swoop to sign John Guidetti on loan from

> Manchester City, and Stefan Scepovic on a four

> year deal from Sporting Gijon. Guidetti has been

> a Celtic transfer rumour since his 20 goals in 23

> games stint at Feyenoord as a teenager in 2011-12.

> Now he?s on board, I?m holding out for news of

> Georgi Kinkladze.

>

> Stefan Scepovic could have played his hand better

> over the last 24 hours; footballers are seldom

> accused of over-intellectualising their plans.

> Late interest from La Liga looked to have dealt

> Celtic a body-blow, but he?s ours now, and I?m

> pleased we got someone who was wanted by Spanish

> scouts."

>

>

> Edited to add that we also managed to hold on to

> Virgil van Dyke on the day he was called up to the

> Dutch squad, despite lots of EPL interest. It's

> nice to see the club being big enough to tell a

> player he is going nowhere.

From nowt to two down to one again - the Guidetti deal fell through.

Must be nice signing a striker who didn't want to go to you, and then only changed his mind when a deal to go to Getafe collapsed!

Who actually made a bid for VVD?