Football Focus

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p.s. - ooh look, we're still 5th :)

[Otta]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> So the big change as you perceive it is you now

> have a better manager (one who was sacked from his

> last two jobs)

Er, being sacked is hardly unusual, even for top managers. Your likely next manager just got sacked from Chelsea.

['bout now]

BFS is a distant memory and he has his work cut out at Sunderland, particularly after the Johnson case. For me though, football is an entertainment and when I'm not entertained (for good or bad), I stop paying. That's what Allardyce did, he stopped me going for he first time in 30 years.

So, I understand your opinion RD and AM, try to understand mine.

It's not like MUFC or their supporters behaved any better with Moyes, is it?

[red devil]

Moyes took us from Champions to 7th in the blink of an eye. At least with BFS there was an end product despite the dogshit football. He got you promoted at the first attempt and then kept you in the PL. Yes it's nice to be entertained, but sometimes you have to walk before you can run. I have no problem with WH fans complaining about the dogshit football in his 3rd season, that was the time to sack him, kick on with a new manager, but the owners saw otherwise. What I can't understand is this refusal to accept BFS achieved some very important things for the club, especially as it was a crucial time with the move to the OS looming. You certainly can't say that about Moyes, he left us with Fellaini FFS :)...

[Alan Medic]

Otta Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > So the big change as you perceive it is you now

> > have a better manager (one who was sacked from

> his

> > last two jobs)

>

>

> Er, being sacked is hardly unusual, even for top

> managers. Your likely next manager just got sacked

> from Chelsea.

Er, depends on how you define a top manager. JM I suspect was sacked for reasons which were not strictly football related. What other 'top' manager has been sacked from a club other than Real Madrid?

[Otta]

Carlo Ancelotti

Luiz Felipe Scolari

AVB

Louis van Gaal

Frank Rijkaard

And if we include "left by mutual consent" (which often means "we'll let you save a bit of face" the list is huge.

I think even SAF was sacked earlier in his career.

['bout now]

Sir Bobby Robson

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Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > > So the big change as you perceive it is you

> now

> > > have a better manager (one who was sacked

> from

> > his

> > > last two jobs)

> >

> >

> > Er, being sacked is hardly unusual, even for

> top

> > managers. Your likely next manager just got

> sacked

> > from Chelsea.

>

> Er, depends on how you define a top manager. JM I

> suspect was sacked for reasons which were not

> strictly football related. What other 'top'

> manager has been sacked from a club other than

> Real Madrid?

Brian Clough

[Otta]

Kenny Dalglish certainly would have been considered a top manager once upoin a time, and still would have held that label when he was first sacked by a club (Newcastle I believe).

[red devil]

The BBC were asking which manager has been the worse, the evidence against Ian Dowie was pretty damning...

[Alan Medic]

Otta Wrote:

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> Carlo Ancelotti

> Luiz Felipe Scolari

> AVB

> Louis van Gaal

> Frank Rijkaard

>

> AVB and Scolari? You could make a case for the others but not those two.

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red devil Wrote:

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> The BBC were asking which manager has been the

> worse, the evidence against Ian Dowie was pretty

> damning...

Roeder for me - took us down with a crop of amazing young players: Cole; Defoe; Lampard; Carrick etc (and a decent squad), Result we lost most of them to Chelsea; a couple of seasons before I though we were really going to challenge for some silverware with that lot in our ranks. Devastated us (financially too).

[Mick Mac]

John Barnes. Don't think he has worked since.

[Parkdrive]

Remi Garde, hard to see anyone giving him a job after the debacle at Villa

[red devil]

Once again Scholes nails it...tick tock

[Alan Medic]

Do ya reckon JM is next in RD?

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Careful what you wish for :)

[Jah Lush]

Beat me to it Quids. I think Maureen would be a very expensive disaster for Man Utd. Carlo Ancelotti would be a much better idea in my opinion.

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Or, if he keeps the Mackems up, BFS would be the ideal choice to stabilise the club, give them time to walk before they run kind of thing...

[Alan Medic]

I fear BFS won't be available as I don't reckon Zidane will last too long at Madrid. Maybe Bilic would like to move from one club whose supporters live in the past to a bigger one doing the same apparently....

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Ah yes, the Greg Dyke approach to football (or at least the excuse/argument put forward by suits when fans realise there is shit happening that is masquerading as 'progress') - You're all living in the past.

A bit like wanting affordable tickets eh doc? Or being against a European super league? Maybe wanting a return to a European Champions Cup to be ONLY for champions? Or wanting to watch attractive football?

Bloody luddites.

[Alan Medic]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Beat me to it Quids. I think Maureen would be a

> very expensive disaster for Man Utd. Carlo

> Ancelotti would be a much better idea in my

> opinion.

He's off to Bayern.

[Jah Lush]

So he is. I must be getting old, the memory's going.

[Jah Lush]

Steve McLaren's available. ;-)

[red devil]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Do ya reckon JM is next in RD?

I think it's a cert, he's just told BT he's starting a new job in July.

I think he would bring success, but at what cost, Utd's PR dept are going to be busy...