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Mick Mac

Mick Mac

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red devil Wrote:

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> maxxi Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Or, if he keeps the Mackems up, BFS would be

> the

> > ideal choice to stabilise the club, give them

> time

> > to walk before they run kind of thing...

>

> By all means bring in him if we get relegated...


There is a precedent.

dbboy

dbboy

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McClaren is a loser, should never ever have been appointed. We all knew it would end in tears (or in his case a big pay off). Hope Benitez turns it around for them. Would be deeply sad to see such a great club drop into the Championship, but then with Ashley holding the purse strings, anything is possible.
titch juicy

titch juicy

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dbboy Wrote:

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> McClaren is a loser, should never ever have been

> appointed. We all knew it would end in tears (or

> in his case a big pay off). Hope Benitez turns it

> around for them. Would be deeply sad to see such a

> great club drop into the Championship, but then

> with Ashley holding the purse strings, anything is

> possible.


Great club?


They've been up and down from prem to championship plenty of times in the last few decades. Not won a major trophy since the 70s (league cup), not won an FA cup since the 50s and not won the league since the 20s.


They've been a joke of a club since Keegan ballsed up their title run in the 90s. Good riddance to them and Villa.

Parkdrive

Parkdrive

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titch juicy Wrote:

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> But why does number of fans through the gate =

> great club?

>

> It is a small measure, but certainly doesn't

> define the greatness of a club.


So what does make a great club in your opinion? I'm guessing you'd claim your club is "great club" ?

titch juicy

titch juicy

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You could argue that they were a great club in the middle of the last century when they won a few FA Cups or the first decade of the last century when they won the league a few times, but now they're just an average club with some very distant history and high attendances.
Parkdrive

Parkdrive

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titch juicy Wrote:

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> You could argue that they were a great club in the

> middle of the last century when they won a few FA

> Cups or the first decade of the last century when

> they won the league a few times, but now they're

> just an average club with some very distant

> history and high attendances.


I would argue they are still a great club, but I'll ask again, what do you think makes a great club?

titch juicy

titch juicy

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No, we're in the same category. We're nothing like a 'great club' as it stands. If we embark on a period of success now, then perhaps we could be considered such, as we have at times in the past. I would say we're closer than Newcastle though.


If I had to define what makes a great club, I guess it would be; global and domestic fanbase (yes, it's a measure, but only a small one), recent (last couple of decades) success at home and abroad, youth/academy system and well run financially etc. The board are just as much part of the club as the players, management and fans.


For me, the only current great Premier League clubs are Man United, Arsenal and at a stretch Liverpool. They built their relatively recent successes on something other than massive debt. I know United now have large debt, but during their period of real success it was built on youth.

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