red devil Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Alan Medic Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Are you still sure JM is going to be United's next> manager RD?Sorry Meds, missed this.Yes, esp as CL now not possible. If we win the FA Cup that shouldn't save LvG from the chop. I know Mourinho has baggage, but anyone else would be a big risk... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Nothing jammy about Arsenal Jah. Spurs blew it,> simple as that. They lost the plot as soon as> Hazard's goal went in. Even MoPo had been showing> signs of pressure by thumping the floor at Stoke> and Chelsea. That's when you needed a bit of> experience in your squad. The question is, will> Spurs' young squad learn from it, or will it leave> long term mental scars?...I don't disagree that we blew it. Only Tottenham could have blown it the way they did and let Arsenal in ahead of them on the very last day of the season. I think we also missed Dele Alli and Mousa Dembele once they got their bans. Two very big players for us which also shows the need to buy big in the summer because their replacements just weren't good enough.On a more positive note it has still been a very good season for us, we're in the Champions League, we have a great squad of young players who will be all the better for this experience next season. Harry Kane won the Golden Boot with 25 league goals, Alli won Young Player of the Year and Goal of the Season on MOTD and we have five players going to the Euros which is a testament to the management of Mauricio Pochettino. With a few additions to the squad I think we can make a challenge for the title next season. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinestone Cowboy Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Shame for spurs as they played some great footy... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Interesting take of the West Ham v Man Utd fracas last week.http://www.dreamdeferred.org.uk/2016/05/west-ham-hooligans-or-police-liars/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Always the victim, it's never your fault... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> DulwichFox Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > > So we get to play Newcastle next Season. Bring> it> > on.. > > You need to get to the play-off final first Foxy.> Will you be going if you do? If you do you should> take Moonster, convert her back :)... I did say ..so Millwall a bit closer to a return to The Championship.. I think we will do it.. Yes I'll be going. It will be my 4th time at the new Wembley.. It's a great atmosphere there. Haven't seen or heard from Moonster for some time.. She's a 'Swan' now.. She don't like losing.. Millwall doing well now but don't think she will ever convert back. Shame really.. Not many other 'Wall fans here. Foxy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Alan Medic Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Are you still sure JM is going to be United's> next> > manager RD?> > Sorry Meds, missed this.> Yes, esp as CL now not possible. If we win the FA> Cup that shouldn't save LvG from the chop. I know> Mourinho has baggage, but anyone else would be a> big risk...If it means more negative football, which it almost certainly will, I'd be surprised if MU went for Jose. Surely the traditional attacking style of MU is the way "forward". anyway - I personally think LVG will be given more time. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 JM's teams haven't always played negative football. His first Chelsea team of Robben and Duff were very attack minded. Real Madrid too, hard not to be with the players he had. The first half of last season Chelsea were playing entertaining, attacking football. So I don't think it's a given he would bring negative football. He knows it wouldn't go down well, so I think he would adapt accordingly.Personally I don't understand why LvG would be given more time, unless the plan is to replace him with Giggs, and if that's the case why haven't the club made a statement to that effect to dispel all the JM talk? The fact that they haven't made a statement is telling. I think the club would've sacked him already were it not for the possibility of CL and the FA Cup run. They've kept quiet so the players didn't switch off like City. I'm convinced he'll be gone after the FA Cup final, and amazed if he stays. Why let a manager run down the final year of his contract like that? Doesn't make sense unless Giggs is the heir. I like Koeman, probably next best after JM... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 We will see. I don't think he should be given more time - I just think he will. Don't buy the oft quoted Duff Robben argument really - it was an experiment for him that didn't really work out - in the long run he reverted to type. Of course his style works - but I think the LVG style failure makes it less rather than more likely that they go to Jose next. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 On a brighter note, JT has been offered a new contract. Only problem is he's not sure he wants it now it seems....... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Obviously weighing up his options until the new manager turns up. Can't blame him for doing that even if he is a cunt. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted May 16, 2016 Author Share Posted May 16, 2016 What Jah said. I'm not Terry fan, but I can't blame him for wanting to talk with the new gaffer before making a decision. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-998428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'bout now Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I can't help thinking that John Terry is a large part of the problem at Chelsea.I maybe wrong but he is very close to Abramovich. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Your brother is a feelerYour daddy is a dealerYour mummy is a stealer..the Terry family Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 So, I for one am looking forward to this evening. Although quite nervous for Liverpool. Loads riding on it, win and we're in the CL, lose and we're not in Europe at all. Could make a huge difference for attracting players this summer. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 What the hell happened to the team that played the first half? Liverpool were embarrassing second half. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Feel your pain Otta, but no midfield I reckon and Coutinho went missing too. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 He was missing more or less the whole match, with the exception of passing to Sturridge (who's goal does deserve a mention, class finish). Just very disappointing. I don't mind losing well, but that was beyond lame in the second half. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> What the hell happened to the team that played the> first half? Liverpool were embarrassing second> half.I think Liverpool's problem is that they can't play the high tempo pressing game for the full 90 mins. I've seen them before blow-up after about 75 mins. But for some reason, maybe adrenaline and the occasion took over, they run out of gas by half-time... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Thar may be part of it, bit there was more to.it than that I think. As soon as the quick goal after half time went in they just seemed to give up. And key players didn't have a good game. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Credit has to be given to Emery, he made a good tactical change after half-time. Sevilla were getting overrun down the right hand side in the first-half, with Clyne bombing forward a lot. That stopped in the second half... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Moreno was awful and cost you big time. I'd say get rid. Don't rate him at all. Countinho, apart from setting up the goal invisible, Firmino had one good run, other than that invisible too but you're also forgetting how good Seville were second half. They closed down your midfield and didn't let you play where they'd been space to do so first half, though I'd argue Liverpool didn't work hard enough second half and perhaps as RD says ran out of puff. Woeful defending on all of the goals. I thought Kolo Toure and James Milner were your two best players and that's saying something. Apart from Sturridge's decent finish any flair went missing. So, to conclude, on the night you just weren't good enough. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Don't disagree with any of that, and yes Seville deserve credit. But I've seen LFC lose finals before and never experienced an atmosphere quite like the one in the pub in that second half. There was tangible disbelief that they could have changed THAT much from the first half. As I say, more than just running out of steam. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Good work Mousa. Well deserved to.http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag237/jahlushhead/13221033_10153802271499332_3573270631239043954_n_zpsmg8kpxq9.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Good to see a Celtic player there. Albeit we sold him to Southampton, it's still a good buy and sell. Southampton this season had Fraser Forster, van dyke and Wanyama - all of which could/should have been bought by the big 4 clubs directly from Celtic. They are all top notch. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/266/#findComment-999849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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