Football Focus

[Otta]

Somebody has a bit of a thing about Liverpool FC.

[Millhaven]

Otta Wrote:

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> Somebody has a bit of a thing about Liverpool FC.

lol - you got me there, Otta! ;-)

[red devil]

Nice extra-time run out for Liverpool this evening before THE big game this Sunday...

[Otta]

Oh Christ. They were 2-0 and cruising when I last looked. Definitely not great ahead of the weekend!

[Parkdrive]

Millhaven Wrote:

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> >

> > Nothing to do with Johnny Foreigner, I'm from

> > immigrant stock myself, its do with with

> robbing

> > your own people and commiting human right

> abuses

> > such as torture which I find unsavoury. Or

> perhaps

> > because you support one of the particular clubs

> in

> > question you find it hard to take and therefore

> > need to defend? Arsenal were linked with a

> company

> > which were also linked to human rights abuses

> and

> > I screamed blue murder on the the blogs and

> fans

> > websites about it, as I have no wish for a club

> > I've supported for 45 years to get involved

> with

> > such despicable behaviour. You're pasing the

> buck

> > by saying it's down to those who decide who is

> > "fit and proper", do you not have a conscience

> and

> > mind of your own?

>

> Firstly, Syed was talking about Chelsea through

> Abramovich being corrosive for football. He is

> wrong, total opposite has happened. His naive

> argument was based upon how Abramovich made his

> billions. Which is a totally different argument

> altogether.

>

> Secondly, I am not passing the buck, they already

> have it, that is their job to define who is or

> isn't a fit or proper person to own a club. You or

> I cant make that decision for them. Frankly the

> fit and fair panel have been found wanting. We can

> blog about it but I suspect it is going to take a

> bit more than that. If you think your club is run

> by arms dealers, torturers, pension thieves or

> even pornographers then it is down to you to stop

> giving that club your cash.

>

> Arsenal. Oh the irony. The club that bribed their

> way into the football league. Helped by, surprise

> surprise Liverpool FC, who'd thunk it eh?!

>

> I think football is mostly governed by crooks,

> fiends and incompetents and always has been by the

> looks of it. The only way things will ever change

> is if we all stopped attending matches. Then they

> might sit up and actually listen.

You clearly are in need of help if you believe that Abromavichs sins and those of the City backers are of no consequence and becasue others have deemed them to be fit an proper, well thats ok by you. Oh the irony indeed, far from being naive the article was telling and that, I suspect, is was you dislike as it hit home and touched a nerve. Classless CSKA Fulham all over.

[Mick Mac]

If Celtic go out the CL tonight it will be a huge cockup. Selling your best players before qualifying for the 20m tournament is rather short sighted.

2-0 down and personally I cant see Celtic not conceding for 90 mins. Hopeful but pessimistic and already preparing myself to accept that Europa League is more our speed. Still think they cocked up whatever happens.

[El Pibe]

you might enjoy this MM

http://sport.bt.com/video-01363814401986?videoid=2619324211001 the chap on the right is an old mate of mine.

brighty's 'misunderestimate' is a gem too.

[red devil]

I actually feel a bit sorry for Celtic that despite winning their domestic league, albeit a weak one, and making the last 16 last year, they still had to go through all the pre-qualifying games for this season's competition...

[Otta]

Yep, seems pretty out of order when the runners up in other leagues don't have to qualify. Champions (even of a crap league made even crapper by the loss of their one realistic rival) should play in the Champions League.

[Millhaven]

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> You clearly are in need of help if you believe

> that Abromavichs sins and those of the City

> backers are of no consequence and becasue others

> have deemed them to be fit an proper, well thats

> ok by you. Oh the irony indeed, far from being

> naive the article was telling and that, I suspect,

> is was you dislike as it hit home and touched a

> nerve. Classless CSKA Fulham all over.

This is becoing a rather dull circular argument which I am afraid I will have to leave you to tilt at your particular windmills.

Haha! The old 'classless' insult. The last bastion of a football fan that has lost an argument. ;-)

[maxxi]

Otta Wrote:

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> Yep, seems pretty out of order when the runners up

> in other leagues don't have to qualify. Champions

> (even of a crap league made even crapper by the

> loss of their one realistic rival) should play in

> the Champions League.

Absolutely - in fact it should be ONLY the champions. A cup competition where only champions took part would be- oh hang on...

(sponsored by the bring-back-the-cup-winners'-cup-too campaign)

[Millhaven]

UEFA just see football as one big money printing exercise. Every football supporter to a man/woman would like to see a return to the old Champion's only european competition but the football authorities and to a large extent the clubs would rather chase the ?????s.

[Mick Mac]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> you might enjoy this MM

> http://sport.bt.com/video-01363814401986?videoid=2

> 619324211001 the chap on the right is an old mate

> of mine.

> brighty's 'misunderestimate' is a gem too.

Very good - For once all of the punters were spot on. Your mate especially, if we attack and concede we are fooked.

[Mick Mac]

red devil Wrote:

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> I actually feel a bit sorry for Celtic that

> despite winning their domestic league, albeit a

> weak one, and making the last 16 last year, they

> still had to go through all the pre-qualifying

> games for this season's competition...

I dont mind playing one qualifier but 3 is ridiculous for a team getting the the last 16 last year.

Whats wrong with the system (imo) is that Celtic's euro coefficient is heavily influenced by the performance of the other teams in its league... ie the strenght of the other scottish league teams and their european records. There is then an assumptuion that if you come from a weak league you are a poor team and should go through all the qualifiers. Its difficult to see that changing with Rangers out of europe for a while.

To be fair Celtic were seeded and should have been able to get through - we certainly cant complain about the draw. Its just that we haven't sorted our team out for the season yet, as we have sold but not bought, but we face getting chucked out before the transfer window has even closed. Hey ho.

[Alan Medic]

From what I understand Celtic were the better team in the 1st leg. It shouldn't be all doom and gloom just yet. Remember Cologne 92-93?

[Mick Mac]

We are in the hat ... Get in.

Just can't get enough. Do..do...

[Bhoy in Singapore]

Phew! Didnt think we'd do it but so relieved we have! Can look forward to a bit of glamour and an escape from the drudgery of the SPL!

Now we need to strengthen or fear for the results if we come up against decent opposition - which in the Champions league is pretty much what you get.

[El Pibe]

Wow!!! I guess Sheridan needs to eat his words :-D

[red devil]

Great win for Celtic, perfect timing for all 3 goals. Stoke should sign up Rory Delapski...

[Mick Mac]

Twitter Xabi Alonso?@XabiAlonso14h

What a night for @celticfc !! Celtic Park buzzing again. I wish we could meet in group stage and play for once there.

[Otta]

He's basically saying "great stadium and fans, but they'll be knocked out in the group stages".

[Mick Mac]

Thanks for that insight. Very helpful.

[Otta]

Oooo touchy!

[Mick Mac]

Sure thing dude.

[Mick Mac]

Group H

Barcelona(ESP)

Milan(ITA)

Ajax(NED)

Celtic(SCO)

Hmmmm - some good nights out. :)