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DulwichFox

DulwichFox

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red devil Wrote:

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> Good luck with that Foxy. I reckon since Moonster

> switched allegiances, she's put a hex on Swansea

> and Millwall are now flourishing...


She wanted to meet up for a Millwall Swansea bash at Wembley for a FA Cup Final.


Well that's not to happen now.


;)

Alan Medic

Alan Medic

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I quite like Paddy Barclay as a journalist and I like this piece reminding Scholes and Ferdinand it wasn't always fantastic when they played for United:


http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/patrick-barclay-ferdinand-and-scholes-should-remember-what-they-achieved-after-failing-in-europe-a3133246.html

red devil

red devil

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I dunno, I think it's easy to cherry pick from history to make a point.

Scholes is right, the current team is average. Despite failing in Europe in those examples Barclay cites, you couldn't say those teams was average. Utd won the CL in 2008, and made the final in '09 and '11, losing only to one of the best ever club sides. The current team is light years away from Barca now. You also have to remember that Fergie's hands were tied in the transfer market at the time, so when we sold Ronaldo for ?80m, we ended up buying Valencia for ?16m because there was ''no value in the market''. LVG has had no such constraints. As well as average, LVG has turned Utd into a joyless, souless team, something you could never level at a Fergie side, win or lose. For me, his constant use of 2 defensive minded holding midfield players, is the crux of the problem. This system which he's used all season tells me he's more concerned with not conceding than scoring goals. Perhaps he doesn't trust the defence. I don't think there's any coincidence that the best spell of football we've played under LVG, was last season when he was forced to play 4-3-3, with only Carrick in the DM position, using Herrera's energy to drive the team forward. For some reason he's culled the club of most of the attack minded players. He's either sold or loaned out at least 8 and only bought in two, Depay and Martial, both very young and inexperienced at this level. You only had to look at the Utd bench for the Wolfsberg game to see the paucity of attack minded players we have at the club. To me it's careless and a dereliction of duty to have let so many players go and not replace them. If he continues in a similar vein until the end of the season then I expect he will go then. He's got time and a transfer window to address these issues, but I'm not holding my breath, he's not known as the Iron Tulip for nothing...

Parkdrive

Parkdrive

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red devil Wrote:

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> I can't believe Gus Poyet is one of the favs for

> the Swansea job.

> Great performance by Arsenal and Giroud last

> night...


Me neither!! I thought Giroud and Campbell had great games, and Ramsey is far better playing centrally than out wide. Probably be out next round but hey ho.

Jah Lush

Jah Lush

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Yeah, credit where it's due. Excellent stuff from Le Arse last night. Having Ramsey back must be a massive lift for the team. Excellent hat-trick from Giroud and you'd hope that would put all those silly Walcott fantasies about being a centre forward back in the box where they belong.
'bout now

'bout now

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Parkdrive Wrote:

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> I would have had chicarito at Arsenal in a

> heartbeat. Not sure what he did to piss United

> off.


I missed this and totally agree. Saw him at Upton park, maybe 4 years ago? Almost impossible for a defender to mark.

red devil

red devil

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Manchester Evening News reporting that Ryan Giggs would be open to leaving Utd for Swansea job.

From a Utd perspective it makes sense to me for several reasons...


He can't be enjoying how LVG sets up Utd. His lack of comments speaks volumes.

With his close ties to Neville and Scholes through Salford, their criticism of LVG must be awkward for him.

Lining him up as Utd's next manager is a massive risk without any managerial experience...

Jah Lush

Jah Lush

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Excellent performance from Spurs tonight and a Lamela hat-trick. We're now at long last starting to see what a player he can be for us. His work rate as with all the young lads who came in tonight was phenomenal. It goes to show if you really put in the effort and work hard the breaks will come. And he speaks the lingo too. Woo!
Parkdrive

Parkdrive

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Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Yeah, credit where it's due. Excellent stuff from

> Le Arse last night. Having Ramsey back must be a

> massive lift for the team. Excellent hat-trick

> from Giroud and you'd hope that would put all

> those silly Walcott fantasies about being a centre

> forward back in the box where they belong.


Walcott will never be a centre forward, striker yes but never a centre forward

Alan Medic

Alan Medic

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Some interesting stats I learned today. Bournemouth players run more than any other team in the league. When they beat Chelsea, Chelsea ran more than they had ever done according to John Terry.


Injuries are the result of a previous injury and secondly due to a change in training regime for new players. That second one you would think clubs would work out. Every player is different and their needs are different. It would appear with all the money in the game that some clubs haven't worked that out.


Man United's goalscorer today was taken off because...........please complete the sentence.

Jah Lush

Jah Lush

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Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Man United's goalscorer today was taken off

> because........... of LVG's inability to see that perhaps he just might have been their main threat up front. Sad to say but probably true. That how awful that have become.


And forget about the stats. Tottenham round around a lot too and I'm sure our fitness had helped but its goal that win matches.

red devil

red devil

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> Man United's goalscorer today was taken off

> because..........LVG saw a 2-1 defeat as an improvement on the last time we played and lost at Bournemouth in 1984, that day we didn't score a goal. Tick tock Louis, tick tock...


and/or...


> Man United's goalscorer today was taken off

> because..........it would distract from the news that Chicarito scored a hat trick and Wilson netted again. Tick tock Louis, tick tock...



I could do this all day :)

red devil

red devil

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Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Typical Tottenham! Just when you think we're doing

> alright we go and screw things up. It's the hope

> that kills you.


Fergie always said that young players were inconsistent.

They also haven't learnt game management, how to play out a game from a winning position.

Arsenal on the other appear to be doing just that, another slick, professional performance...

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