AllforNun Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 It is odd that you can buy a cheap Chicken breast, battery farmed etc or an expensive one 3x the price that is organic and free range, yet they will not stock a non organic breast which is free range. I know they are out there. Put in context with the fact that they try and encourage you at the checkout to bring your own plastic bags, i think it is a classic example of the silly politics that go on in our daily lives, most of which are not grounded in any form of reality. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Kind of agree, AllforNun, but it's worth having a look at the hen-keeping conditions necessary in order to qualify for the 'free range' label, and comparing them with those for the 'organic' label. My understanding is that the organic requirements are far more stringent: for example, de-beaking is allowed under free range.Can't find any evidence on the internet at the mo, though. Will come back if I do. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/#findComment-110732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmora Man Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I believe William Rose stock non organic free range and "cared for" meats and chicken. As a bonus it's not displayed wrapped in cling film. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/#findComment-110761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 A bit embarrassed, a more sensible look on the internet resulted in the answer in about 4 seconds.Organic (Soil Association)Free Range c/o DEFRA (did this used to be the Min of Ag and Fish?) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/#findComment-110764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllforNun Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 Yes i know all the local butchers, Scotch Meats in West Dulwich, libretto's in Wood Vale, Our own Nunhead Butchers and The hollywood butcher that is William Rose!!But my point is Sainsbury's as huge as it is Should be offering free range chicken, not organic. Cloth bags fine, but why on earth do they not even have some kind of drop off for old plastic bags to be recycled. It's all just lip service politics. Let just boycott the whole store for one day, and then see what happens.Please list your changes or additions you would like to see. I'll start.Rio De Mare' Tuna @ a reasonable price. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/#findComment-110959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 As someone who is pro free-range and (at best) ambivelant about organic I agree totally with AllforNun (yes yes, I know...)I remember circumstance forcing me to the uber Sainsbos on DKH months and months ago - and in a whole aisle of endless chicken I couldn't find either the joint I wanted or simple free-range. Seemed weird to me. I think the Somerfield on LL has plenty of both (from memory) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/#findComment-110965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lozzyloz Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Things only change when consumers demand it. Support Hugh's campaign for Free Range Chicken and sign up for the newsletter. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/#findComment-110969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinity Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Sainsbury's does do just free range chicken breasts (not organic) but they are very difficult to find in the chicken aisle. I can't remember the name but I did eventually find some.Also you can deposit your used plastic bags in the recycling centre at the end of the car park. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/#findComment-111111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I'm not particularly into the organic movement per se, but I don't think the current free range conditions are sufficient, so I buy organic meat. Chicken meat from a chicken which has been de-beaked to prevent it from pecking other chickens out of stress? No thanks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/#findComment-111114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvPeckham Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I have to say, this does bring up a favourite gripe of mine concerning Supermarkets and Organic / Free range goodsIn the worlds before Monkey, primal chaos reigned.Heaven sought order.** and the Supermarkets hadn't domintated the high streets yet. At this time, almost everyone bought free range food as mass production of most products was limited.Then Supermarkets came along and helped drive the mass production and farm production of our beloved products (like Chickens) to ensure that they bought at a low price, sold at a good profit but still cheaper then the local butchers and hence satisfied their customers demands for more and cheaper...(thus ensuring dominance of the High Street) Yet now that we have wisened up to the issues around factory and intense farming, the supermarkets are starting to realise that there is a market for Organic and Free Range, which they can load a premimum price on despite the fact that they were instrumental in killing the free range farms in the first place.. Isn't this a case of having your chicken and eating it for the Supermarkets... Coupled with that, it is often cheaper to shop locally then the Supermarkets, stimulating local trade and the local economy and helping to foster a sense of community (this is almost the same issue as we the consumer are being penalised for producing waste in the form of redundant packaging, yet the Supermarkets are the ones responsible for packing the goods... shouldn't they be made to pay to have waste removed or for better recycling facilities !!! - Bring back paper carrier bags I say) RANT - RAVE - RANT - and Breath in for 30 hold and out for 30 and in again and :X** Full QuoteIn the worlds before Monkey, primal chaos reigned.Heaven sought order.But the phoenix can fly only when its feathers are grown.The four worlds formed again and yet again,As endless aeons wheeled and passed.Time and the pure essences of Heaven,the moisture of the Earth,the powers of the sun and the moonAll worked upon a certain rock, old as creation.And it became magically fertile.That first egg was named "Thought".Tathagata Buddha, the Father Buddha, said,"With our thoughts, we make the world."Elemental forces caused the egg to hatch.From it then came a stone monkey.The nature of Monkey was irrepressible! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/3533-free-range-chicken-breasts/#findComment-111210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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