A credible magazine for East Dulwich/local area?

[Alan Medic]

Dog duck Wrote:

I also

> understand that SE22 contains bits of useful

> information, but it's look and feel is inadequate

> at best. With regards to editing, I guess we can

> all have our own opinions on that subject.

I don't understand this. Why is SE22 inadequate and what's wrong with it's look or feel? Feel???

[Sue]

Dog duck Wrote:

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>

> I don't recall saying that there should'nt be

> local advertising or sponsored pages or features?

> I do understand how a magazine can function

> including printing and distribution. I also

> understand that SE22 contains bits of useful

> information, but it's look and feel is inadequate

> at best. With regards to editing, I guess we can

> all have our own opinions on that subject. What

> has the organisation of the Goose Green Fair got

> to do with anything?

xxxxxxx

You called SE22 "an ad mag".

I think that is an unfair description. It contains a lot of useful information, including about upcoming events, new shops and businesses, and photos of past local events, plus articles by local people.

To say "its look and feel is inadequate at best" depends entirely on what you feel is "adequate", which is a matter of personal opinion (though I agree the layout could be improved in places).

To imply (as you do in your subject header) that it is not "credible" just because you want a magazine with a different focus and contents is unfair.

My reference to the Goose Green Fair was because Angela Burgess, who edits the magagazine, lives locally and contributes a lot to the local community. She does not just sit and haul in ads to put in SE22.

[Dog duck]

Sue Wrote:

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> Dog duck Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> >

> > I don't recall saying that there should'nt be

> > local advertising or sponsored pages or

> features?

> > I do understand how a magazine can function

> > including printing and distribution. I also

> > understand that SE22 contains bits of useful

> > information, but it's look and feel is

> inadequate

> > at best. With regards to editing, I guess we

> can

> > all have our own opinions on that subject. What

> > has the organisation of the Goose Green Fair

> got

> > to do with anything?

>

> xxxxxxx

>

> You called SE22 "an ad mag".

>

> I think that is an unfair description. It contains

> a lot of useful information, including about

> upcoming events, new shops and businesses, and

> photos of past local events, plus articles by

> local people.

>

> To say "its look and feel is inadequate at best"

> depends entirely on what you feel is "adequate",

> which is a matter of personal opinion (though I

> agree the layout could be improved in places).

>

> To imply (as you do in your subject header) that

> it is not "credible" just because you want a

> magazine with a different focus and contents is

> unfair.

>

> My reference to the Goose Green Fair was because

> Angela Burgess, who edits the magagazine, lives

> locally and contributes a lot to the local

> community. She does not just sit and haul in ads

> to put in SE22.

Why are you going on about what great things Angela Burgess does in the local community? I've got no issue with that, I'm saying SE22 mag is pap!. It's structure and layout is rubbish and the photography is laughable. As you state you 'flinch' when walking past crappy local architecture, I flinch when a copy of SE22 drops on my doormat.

[Alan Medic]

I'd like to know DD why you might even think ED needs a credible magazine? It doesn't.

[Sue]

cred?i?ble (krd-bl)

adj.

1. Capable of being believed; plausible.

2. Worthy of confidence; reliable.

3. Being of sufficient military capability to deter an attack or carry out an operation successfully: credible military force.

ETA: So I'm unclear why SE22 magazine is considered not "credible".

[unlurked]

I wouldn't mind seeing a new mag for the area. SE22 is boring and staid now, full of ads from the same companies etc. A new mag may force SE22 to re-vamp which I think is badly needed.

[Alan Medic]

I'm not sure what you expect from SE22 unlurked. I don't often read it but when I do I see it provides information as to what's happening in ED which for some people may be very useful. Full of ads from the same companies.......jeez grow up. It's a free magazine which exists because of adverts. Those people who advertise choose to because they consider it worth it. I don't think I have ever heard of a complaint about any magazine because the adverts are always the same. This is ED not the whole of London.

[unlurked]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> I'm not sure what you expect from SE22 unlurked. I

> don't often read it but when I do I see it

> provides information as to what's happening in ED

> which for some people may be very useful. Full of

> ads from the same companies.......jeez grow up.

> It's a free magazine which exists because of

> adverts. Those people who advertise choose to

> because they consider it worth it. I don't think I

> have ever heard of a complaint about any magazine

> because the adverts are always the same. This is

> ED not the whole of London.

Seen 'the dark side of the forum . . .' thread, AM? Ring any bells?

[StraferJack]

Wait... You think something is wrong with Alan medics post unlurked?

A good opportunity to expand on what exactly is wrong with it...

[Alan Medic]

Oh, I've been exposed as a bully. I'd love to know where and when but I'm sure you will tell me.

[unlurked]

An over the top aggressive post because someone has a different opinion than you.

[Alan Medic]

unlurked Wrote:

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> An over the top aggressive post because someone

> has a different opinion than you.

Which post?

[Dog duck]

Sue Wrote:

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> cred?i?ble (krd-bl)

>

> adj.

>

> 1. Capable of being believed; plausible.

> 2. Worthy of confidence; reliable.

> 3. Being of sufficient military capability to

> deter an attack or carry out an operation

> successfully: credible military force.

>

>

> ETA: So I'm unclear why SE22 magazine is

> considered not "credible".

I would've thought the majority of people understand the definition of credibility

in this instance thanks, and you know full well it has nothing to do with 'military capability'. I think you'll find a pretty high percentage of locals who would agree with me that East Dulwich deserves a 'more' credible mag than what we have at present.

[Dog duck]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> I'd like to know DD why you might even think ED

> needs a credible magazine? It doesn't.

Why shouldn't ED have a credible magazine?

[MrBen]

Dog duck - I sense you are a frustrated creative. Someone who can spot mediocrity and who yearns and has a passion for better. That is a positive entrepreneurial quality. You just need to find the right channel for that. And personally, if you want to make any money, I don't think its an SE22 magazine replacement. Plenty other ideas out there though for those with your talents though surely?

[Dog duck]

MrBen Wrote:

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> Dog duck - I sense you are a frustrated creative.

> Someone who can spot mediocrity and who yearns and

> has a passion for better. That is a positive

> entrepreneurial quality. You just need to find the

> right channel for that. And personally, if you

> want to make any money, I don't think its an SE22

> magazine replacement. Plenty other ideas out there

> though for those with your talents though surely?

You make some fair points MrBen... perhaps I was just stupidly fantasizing about driving around in my car emblazoned with logos etc telling everyone about my great magazine company!

[uncleglen]

I am personally sick of unsolicited material plopping through my letterbox and just bin all of it.