ed_pete Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I wonder how this happened? Recovery truck arrived. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheRye Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I’ve come off my pushbike on that corner turning in from ED Grove, it can be quite fast if there’s no oncoming traffic, but a bin lorry…………. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
intexasatthe moment Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 How indeed! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottfield Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 It is very neatly on the footpath. Hats off to the driver for excellent parking. 1 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 😮😮😮 I hope nobody was hurt? 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march46 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 It’s terrifying thinking how many people are usually walking along that pavement to school. Really hope no one was hurt. 1 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
se22 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Fortunately it's school holidays. Depending what time of day it happened there could have been lots of children around. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_pete Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 I'm guessing it must have been early. I passed about 7:30 and there was no signs of police or ambulance only the recovery truck. My guess is that the bin lorry was approaching from the JAGS direction, heading down the hill, turned right, overcooked it and tipped. Hopefully no one was seriously injured though I imagine those in the lorry must been hurt. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 9 minutes ago, ed_pete said: I'm guessing it must have been early. I passed about 7:30 and there was no signs of police or ambulance only the recovery truck. My guess is that the bin lorry was approaching from the JAGS direction, heading down the hill, turned right, overcooked it and tipped. Hopefully no one was seriously injured though I imagine those in the lorry must been hurt. At least it can't/shouldn't have been going very fast, if it was turning a corner? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march46 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I’m not sure that would have been any consolation had anyone have been on the pavement at the time it tipped. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 37 minutes ago, march46 said: I’m not sure that would have been any consolation had anyone have been on the pavement at the time it tipped. No, I completely agree, I was thinking of the guys in it. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 This is a bit of a rubbish thread 😅 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
i*Rate Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 This happened to my car one Sunday morning, some years ago'; it was a gang of kids going around having fun, They've probably grown up now and been working out! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march46 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 It’s good to see local councillors are taking this crash seriously, hopefully the police will also. The tyres marks left on the road suggest speed could have been a factor. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FaPQjGu7x/?mibextid=wwXIfr 2 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) 8 hours ago, march46 said: It’s good to see local councillors are taking this crash seriously, hopefully the police will also. The tyres marks left on the road suggest speed could have been a factor. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FaPQjGu7x/?mibextid=wwXIfr Crikey, that's bad. Yes, from the photo it looks like it skidded. A private operator apparently, so not Veolia. No information as to whether anybody was hurt, but unless there are mitigating circumstances (eg the driver suffered a sudden health incident or the brakes failed, though it shouldn't have been going fast enough to need the brakes at that point, surely) it looks like a prosecution for a driving offence is likely? Do vehicles like this have some kind of technology which retains the speed history etc? Edited April 12 by Sue Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Good grief that could have been awful and lets hope no-one in the vehicle was injured either. Interesting use of "not operated by the council" in the councillor post. The council outsources collection doesn't it so doesn't actually operate any bin lorries any more? 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 47 minutes ago, Rockets said: Good grief that could have been awful and lets hope no-one in the vehicle was injured either. Interesting use of "not operated by the council" in the councillor post. The council outsources collection doesn't it so doesn't actually operate any bin lorries any more? Oh yes, you're right. So it could have been a Veolia lorry Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) The two most likely reasons for over-turning would either be speed or loading related (possibly both). A burst tyre at just the wrong time (during a turn) might also cause this, but I think these lorries have doubled-up tyres. [The photo shows the tyres intact, so it won't be that] The other main reason for large vehicles over-turning (caught by wind) is unlikely on this occasion. Edited April 12 by Penguin68 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
christgill Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 "This vehicle was not operated by the council and we are liaising with Helen Hayes MP and the police to find out who the operators are and how the crash occurred." If the vehicle was either "Council owned" or "Veolia owned" I would hope that they wouldn't need to rely on either Helen Hayes or the police to find out who the operators are! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twoddle Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 11/04/2025 at 12:08, Spartacus said: This is a bit of a rubbish thread 😅 It's wheelie bin not that bad tbh. I'll get me coat. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenijenjen Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 4 hours ago, christgill said: "This vehicle was not operated by the council and we are liaising with Helen Hayes MP and the police to find out who the operators are and how the crash occurred." If the vehicle was either "Council owned" or "Veolia owned" I would hope that they wouldn't need to rely on either Helen Hayes or the police to find out who the operators are! There are other bin lorry operators roaming the area who collect refuse from private businesses. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 4 hours ago, Twoddle said: It's wheelie bin not that bad tbh. Hard to see what would make a lorry tip in the midden of the road like that, but I refuse to slag anyone off until the full facts are known. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) Local accident investigators Dulwich Roads are claiming it was a Veolia bin lorry... https://x.com/DulwichRoads/status/1910711493273788469?t=TcPz_3Wvvv5gAk6PQg1rBA&s=19 Edited April 13 by Rockets Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Rockets said: Local accident investigators Dulwich Roads are claiming it was a Veolia bin lorry... https://x.com/DulwichRoads/status/1910711493273788469?t=TcPz_3Wvvv5gAk6PQg1rBA&s=19 Is there evidence/information that it was a Veolia lorry, though? And surely a driver wouldn't have been using a mobile while turning right (obviously shouldn't have been at all, but while turning would be even worse)? What qualifications/experience/skills etc do you have to have to be taken on as a bin lorry driver? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE22_2020er Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 12 minutes ago, Sue said: Is there evidence/information that it was a Veolia lorry, though? And surely a driver wouldn't have been using a mobile while turning right (obviously shouldn't have been at all, but while turning would be even worse)? What qualifications/experience/skills etc do you have to have to be taken on as a bin lorry driver? Hi Sue, for what it’s worth there were a number of employees in Veolia uniforms there when I went past at 8ish. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/360061-bin-lorry-overturned-townley-road/#findComment-1703588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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