Public consultation on Hepworth replacement for Dulwich Park

[barniepage]

The four artists' proposals for the new art work will be on display at a special exhibition open to the public.

Date: 14, 15 and 21, 22 September

Time: From 11am to 5pm

Location: Francis Peek Centre, Dulwich Park, College Road, SE21 7BQ

The artists are: Ryan Gander, Anya Gallaccio, Conrad Shawcross and Eva Rothschild.

At the exhibition you will be able to view models, watch film and read artists' statements about the proposed works. You will then be able to comment on them.

If you can't attend the exhibition itself then you can view the four shortlisted artists' proposals online and then share your views by completing an online form: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200438/dulwich_park_art_commission

I work for Ryan Gander and you can find out more about his project here: astageforanything.com

[Sue]

Thanks for that, I wouldn't have known about this otherwise.

ETA: Anyone else reminded of David Inshaw by the final picture on the Southwark webpage?

Just looked it up - it's this one!

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.globalartprints.co.uk/images/David-Inshaw-Cricket-Game-I.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.globalartprints.co.uk/David-Inshaw-Cricket-Game-I-Art-Print&h=293&w=432&sz=20&tbnid=oZuW_SzV8tfoZM:&tbnh=78&tbnw=115&zoom=1&usg=__CY0oju-F7wf4N0_tYFHSM52a0Gk=&docid=z5SeKcfr-ZhuzM&sa=X&ei=Sug2UsCyNfTb7Abqu4GQBA&ved=0CKwBEP4dMBA

Oh and this is the Southwark page with pictures of the proposals on:

http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200438/dulwich_park_art_commission/3119/shortlisted_artists

Edited again to say, before anybody makes any comments about get a life etc, I'm laid up in bed ill :))

[barniepage]

I see the similarity! However the image on the site is a photograph of a model rather than a painting (I wish I was that good at painting!), take note of the detail to the rhododendron bushes on the model.

[Jeremy]

I like the final one... the fact that it has a potential purpose beyond the aesthetic. I think it's only art in the vaguest sense, but at least it will be impossible to steal.

[steveo]

Me too

[david_carnell]

I wouldn't fancy trying to steal the first one either. A concrete cast of a seqoia trunk?!

Can't say I like any of them tbh.

[Jeremy]

Now an actual sequoia tree... that would be something!

[david_carnell]

/\ This.

YES!

They do actually exist....

http://www.giant-sequoia.com/gallery/europe/england/

[bawdy-nan]

thanks for this - what great choices!

[Cora]

Thanks for adding the link, voted.

[barniepage]

UPDATE: there are now video interviews with the artists on the Southwark website: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200438/dulwich_park_art_commission/3119/shortlisted_artists

[Chief Jeff]

Thanks for the links, Barnie Page. I think the Ryan Gander idea would be a great enhancement to the park. I like the concrete sequoia stump too, but the fact that the Gander "piece" refers to the Hepworth sculpture - the reason why it's there in the first place - makes that stand out for me. And like Jeremy points out, it'll be great to have a theatre space/something else for children to run around on too.

[barniepage]

a call to arms

[Smiler]

None of them are a patch on the Hepworth :(

The ryan gander and tree trunk ones are OK. The metal one is ugly and in the style of the Diana fountain! Not keen on the giant multicoloured spider thing either

[edhistory]

I like Ryan Gander's design for a new pond.

http://www.southwark.gov.uk/images/Gander.jpg

John K

[maxxi]

I think they are poor replacements too but of them all the concrete stump gets my vote

[Hawley]

Is there a reason why the Hepworth couldn't have been recast? I went along on Sunday and "voted" for Ryan Gardner's piece almost by default as it was the least underwhelming of a very poor pool. I'm surprised that a tie-in of some sort with Camberwell Art College wasn't considered. The park could have had its very own fourth plinth, with students submitting designs to occupy it for a year at a time.

[James]

That 'fourth plinth' idea is getting a bit tired now and would seem like a cop-out I think.

For me the tree stump idea has a wonderful 'Alice in Wonderland' feel to it. And the stage area is highly imaginative too. These are my favourites.

[ruffers]

Not sure how much use a view of a piece visible only for birds is. Building a stage area is a great idea so do it anyway - not sculpture though in my eyes.

[barniepage]

The bird's eye view is almost secondary to the function of the space, the fact that from above it looks like the Hepworth is more a part of the process than being an overriding concept.

Most importantly it provides an interesting space that can be enjoyed in a similar way to the Hepworth. During the research for this project Ryan read threads on this very forum where people shared photos and memories of their enjoyment of the Hepworth, and it is hoped that this space would be enjoyed in similar ways.

Fourth plinth has been done before, no point recreating it. But if a platform for happenings is what you want then the Stage For Anything provides just that, as well as a budget for local performing arts groups to put on a yearly performance.

[Anteros]

Hawley Wrote:

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> Is there a reason why the Hepworth couldn't have

> been recast?

I understand there was a stipulation with her estate / Barbara Hepworth Foundation that there should be no posthumous casts of her work.

[barniepage]

Correct

[edhistory]

barniepage Wrote:

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> During the research for this project

> Ryan read threads on this very forum

Not very thoroughly then.

Why does he want to build a pond?

John K

[Smiler]

My problem with the treetrunk is that a huge tree is a lovely, natural thing, and concrete doesn't seem right.

[Applespider]

I loved the Hepworth and part of me likes the concept of having it landscaped but where in the park would it be? I'm curious as to how they might use the stage as a result - is it in the American Garden as the stump would be? I'm also a little concerned about how easy it might be to maintain. They cut the grass in the park with large mowers - would they be able to keep this in trim or will it end up looking a bit miskempt.

I like the concrete stump because it is a fabulous contrast to all the actual trees in Dulwich Park and because the park keepers do a great job of digging up all the real stumps!

The only thing that appeals about the cast iron work is that having a series of them might be fun - and presumably one could potentially go where the Hepworth once was.