Next PSC National March for Palestine 11th October 2025 12:00 pm - 4:30 pm Central London

[malumbu]

The difficulty with all the national shame is that you are handing the world to the right wing populist parties ("The flag, love it or leave it").  You can look at many if not most of Europe for the damage their colonial conquests did to much of the world. For Britain we could equally look at partition and the impact on the Indian subcontinent, 10 million plus death and the bonkers situation with India and Pakistan now.  Spain and Portugal went much further in wiping out much of the population of South America.  i understand that Stalin was 10 million plus.  We all know about the Third Reich, even then perhaps the allies could have done more.

I am not questioning what you say, but sadly most are only concerned about the present and don't care about sins of the past.

And back to my earlier comment that some will point out other 'conflicts' attracting much less interest.

Not a reason not to march tomorrow 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2025 by malumbu

[CPR Dave]

There was long term peace on 6 October 2023.

[malumbu]

No there wasn't.  Read up before making Ill informed statements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution

Here's a start

[heartblock]

It’s good we are having this discussion. My point of view is that we are definitely witnessing an attempt at genocide in Palestine, the right wing of the Israeli government have some awful views, some of the language representing the worse of humanity. 

Jewishness should not be conflated with Israel or Zionism, I see that has been the case for some of the comments in this thread. Conflating the actions of a Zionist Israeli Government with Jewish people is actually considered antisemitism and is a very dangerous way of thinking, leading to Jewish people in the UK feeling unsafe. 
 

Support peace and march today, I have been many times and met some lovely people. 

It’s a long read, but if any of you are interested in how early Israeli settlers from Europe viewed Arab-Jews and the consequences do have a read.  https://www.vox.com/world-politics/24122304/israel-hamas-war-gaza-palestine-arab-jews-mizrahi-solidarity

Edited October 11, 2025 by heartblock

[CPR Dave]

It's a strange kind of genocide when the civilian population actually increases.

[Sue]

1 hour ago, CPR Dave said:

It's a strange kind of genocide when the civilian population actually increases.

Are you living in some kind of parallel universe?

Please can you explain what you are referring to?

[malumbu]

1 hour ago, CPR Dave said:

It's a strange kind of genocide when the civilian population actually increases.

What is your source?  So you are suggesting that the people of Gaza are so fertile they can out breed the massive loss of life. Unless you can prove this you should apologise and take a long hard look at yourself 

[CPR Dave]

The people supporting Hamas today are the ones who need to take a look at themselves.

[Sue]

3 hours ago, CPR Dave said:

The people supporting Hamas today are the ones who need to take a look at themselves.

Who are the people "supporting Hamas"?

[malumbu]

@IlonaM how was the march?  Yet again I am struck by the politicians who call it a hate event - Pritti Patel on Kuenssberg, with the charming Dorries there too.

I didn't witness much hate on the march I went on.

[IlonaM]

9 minutes ago, malumbu said:

@IlonaM how was the march?  Yet again I am struck by the politicians who call it a hate event - Pritti Patel on Kuenssberg, with the charming Dorries there too.

I didn't witness much hate on the march I went on.

Unfortunately I ended up in King's Urgent Care & the Opthamology Emergency department yesterday - everything went to pot, as far as plans went anyway!

[IlonaM]

Interesting article in the Guardian on Gaza protests around the world:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/11/the-gaza-effect-how-a-global-pro-palestine-protest-movement-met-repression-and-resistance

[Sue]

On 12/10/2025 at 10:57, IlonaM said:

Unfortunately I ended up in King's Urgent Care & the Opthamology Emergency department yesterday - everything went to pot, as far as plans went anyway!

Oh no, are you ok? 

[IlonaM]

15 hours ago, Sue said:

Oh no, are you ok? 

Yes, thanks Sue. Bit of a scare, but escaped something a bit more serious! TBH I was more concerned about who might look after my post-op cat!!!! 

[Sue]

5 hours ago, IlonaM said:

Yes, thanks Sue. Bit of a scare, but escaped something a bit more serious! TBH I was more concerned about who might look after my post-op cat!!!! 

Is your cat ok?

Sorry, don't mean to disrupt your thread.

Edited October 14, 2025 by Sue
Adding apology

[IlonaM]

6 hours ago, Sue said:

Is your cat ok?

Sorry, don't mean to disrupt your thread.

She's doing very well. Thanks.

[TomSE22]

On 11/10/2025 at 17:18, CPR Dave said:

It's a strange kind of genocide when the civilian population actually increases.

This is one of the most stupid arguments used by all the far-right war criminal supporters to justify the unjustifiable. I can only advise you to study what defines a genocide, maybe you’ll learn a thing or two.

Perhaps, you should also read about the great (Jewish) scholars Omer Bartov and Amos Goldberg who both (among others prominent intellectuals) concluded that Israel was committing a genocide. At least, they can’t be accused of antisemitism, I suppose.