Should facial recognition be mandatory for retail outlets?

[vladi]

At present several large retailers such as Co-op, Tesco, Waitrose, John Lewis, and Next use a cloud-based facial recognition system that gives instant alerts to the entry on the premises of known shoplifters. 
Around £19 million incidents of retail theft (some with attacks on staff) occur ever year in the UK amounting in value to £2.6 Billion in value, involving 41,000 known offenders.

Shoplifting adds to the retailer's costs and this is passed on eventually to honest shoppers, isn't there a case for F.R. to become mandatory at all retailers?

[CPR Dave]

Probably will be mandatory once Digital ID comes in. 

 

They can then use the cameras on the tills too to bring all sorts of other useful ancillary controls, such as limiting how much alcohol you buy each week, or monitoring and limiting the carbon footprint of the food you buy (some foods now are already showing the CO2 emissions consumed in producing them).

[ianr]

What mandatory action would then be required of them?

[malumbu]

No, we'd have to be in a police state.  You'd have to get this made law.  Unless it is in Reform's policies.  I'll check.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/live-facial-recognition-technology-to-catch-high-harm-offenders

Not government policy

[vladi]

1 hour ago, ianr said:

What mandatory action would then be required of them?

Some suggestions for mandatory action might include:-

1. Permit retailers to display facial images on the premises  of previous offenders at their local store.
2. Sound an alert and display images on screens inside the store when the FR flags up a person entering who is on the national database of shoplifters.
3. Physically bar recognised shoplifters from the premises. Should they attempt to force entry then charges should be pressed under aggravated trespass, which  a criminal offence under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994.
4. Change the law to allow retailers to have enhanced powers of citizens arrest.

What would you suggest?

59 minutes ago, malumbu said:

No, we'd have to be in a police state.  You'd have to get this made law.  Unless it is in Reform's policies.  I'll check.

Not government policy

The UK seems to have the most lenient policy towards shoplifting , probably because of other demands on the police force. On the plus side, they may have more time for it now that non-crime hate incidents will no longer be investigated.

Other countries, such as the USA have much more sever punishment as does Singapore where repeat offenders or aggravated cases can be sentenced to up to 3 years in prison, a fine, or both.

[beansprout]

Just shows, to me, once proud to be a citizen of UK.. now.. well if we pay/contribute to services - nhs, police, fire etc and folk who have made this there home - no matter what creed or culture.. for the love c of God, can someone  please explain to me.. how we have working royals who like them or not, have tried and continue to actually support and make a change and then we have Andrew.. who just destroys everything.. not just him, or royalty but his own children.. 

I had great admiration for The Queen - and respect.. as have a huge number of people.. but.. these old traditions where gosh.. live rent free and can’t get chucked out until I believe 2070? From what I scanned..well he has and continues to have it all.. has to go thru what old rules? Etc.  doubt very much he has even kept the upkeep maintenance up on his abode.. and do the shite keeps on pulling up..

What has Andrew done for UK or for that matter since he was 20?? Do please tell me

 

 

 

Totally off topic, before anyone jumps down my throat.. I just do not get how anyone is proud to be British at this point in time.

Whoever is in power, seems to be able to help themselves to the public purse with no redress at all - Covid is a great example of lining of pockets..

Millions  given to Rowanda, so one is led to believe, to help with refugee problem and one can’t get a plane load off! 

I simply do not get it at all.

Use of food banks in UK growing yearly, homeless as well, nhs, police, fire service etc all on their knees..
 

 

 

 

[malumbu]

I'd reread what you posted and try to summarise.  It just comes across as a rant.