edhistory Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 The English Heritage approach to preservation of buildings now emphasises "sense of place" and townscape. This can be read about in copies of Conservation News which can be downloaded for free from the web-site.Since spring 1964 East Dulwich has lost many non-domestic buildings that made up our townscape.It is time to consider those few that are are still with us.The English Heritage application process is straightforward.Here is a worthy candidate.John K Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jctg Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Er, no. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-684891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgctobin Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 John K - would you care to elaborate on the supposed architectural merit of your "worthy candidate"?RT Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-684896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I think he's pulling your leg, guys.At least I hope he is. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-684900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 ED police station's next then ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-684903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 An excellent candidate.I'm with John here :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-685007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burbage Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Sue Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> An excellent candidate.> > I'm with John here :)I agree entirely. I think the tiles are distinctive and unusual, and the whole seems to embody a spirit of futile optimism which, because it's been cruelly dashed by the inevitable bludgeon of time, exemplifies, in a very concrete sense, the essence of the human condition. We all start out embodying other people's hopes and, for a while, may even be cherished, but we all go to our graves ugly and alone. The building's brutal celebration of that simple truth, albeit metaphorically, is surely worth preserving. I am, however, glad that such senior members of the forum have chosen to champion it first, as otherwise it might have seemed tactless. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-685041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhistory Posted October 5, 2013 Author Share Posted October 5, 2013 rgctobin Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> John K - would you care to elaborate on the> supposed architectural merit of your "worthy> candidate"?> > RTThe starting point for context is the three comparators:The old Woolworths buildingThe old Co-Operative buildingThe present Co-Operative buildingAll post World War II. All with the same design purpose of having economically viable ground-floor retail unit(s).Burbage has identified one of the key features likely to be of interest to English Heritage.John K Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-685076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 edhistory Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Burbage has identified one of the key features> likely to be of interest to English Heritage.> xxxxxxHis prose style certainly has that je ne sais quoi ....... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-685085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KestonKid Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 A fine structure. And we do need a cheap hotel don't we? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-685210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 KestonKid Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> A fine structure. And we do need a cheap hotel> don't we?xxxxxxAnd so centrally located! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-685332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louisa Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I've always thought of the Bejams/Iceland building as a classic candidate for a travelodge. Louisa. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-685475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhistory Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 I hoped this thread would be about the architecture of the building itself and not about putative occupation.The building needs to be considered in the round, including its rear.John K Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-686274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Can't look at architecture and backsides without thinking carbuncle*. Apt in this case.*Not the gem definition. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-686290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burbage Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 edhistory Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The building needs to be considered in the round,> including its rear.As, sadly, do we all. But, as your picture makes clear, the west face is something of a revelation. At first glance, there's an almost Escherian playfulness in its gutterless geometry, and an apparent acknowledgement of human liberty in the graceful levity of the aerial walkways. On closer consideration, however, the sinisterly labyrinthine qualities become clear. This is surely a Castle rather than a Castalia, a sarcastic Berghof of the flatlands. It's no coincidence that the stairway leads not to heaven but to a parody of a Clarkeian monolith, a decidedly earthly destination that demonstrates both the limits of human ambition and the fearful mundanity of life's purpose.I disagree that a building's occupants are irrelevant. We might think of the building chiefly as a garish bunker of frozen comestibles, but it also houses suburban exiles of the rat-race, a plight that's been reflected both presciently and appropriately by the architect. One of the key deliverables of any civilisation is the accommodation of the unfortunate and this has surely earned its place in the townscape on that ground alone. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-686317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 edhistory Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> > The building needs to be considered in the round,> including its rear.> xxxxxxI think it has a lovely rear.Why is Father Ted's "Lovely Girls Competition" springing to mind? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-686426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 If it's round it has no rear. But really, no. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37131-the-under-rated-non-domestic-architectural-heritage-of-east-dulwich/#findComment-687075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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