Bake off final

[a fish]

Loz Wrote:

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> > ... posted by dickless little boys from the

> safety of their stinking bedrooms

>

> Yeah, see that language like that doesn't really

> help your argument, does it?

>

> But, your definitions posted above are absolutely

> correct, your use of them not correct. 'Hatred of

> a woman' is not the same as 'hatred of women'. And

> that is pretty much the crux of my point.

No, I don't think this is hatred of a woman, not if you examine the other posts these dickless little boys have made from the safety of their stinking bedrooms, for them it's hatred of women, pure and simple, it's misogyny, not sexism. And like david_carnell, they make me ashamed of my gender.

Also, if you examine the abuse Ruby got from posters who could be positively identified as women, it was far more general abuse, nowhere near as specifically misogynist as the abuse that came from posters who could be positively identified as men.

And yes Tr? , the first bit of my post was in answer to you, making the same point as Red Devil's, though the rest of my post was for everyone. Sorry, I should have separated it into paragraphs.

[Tr?]

Thanks a fish.

But, I have to say that while I think the abuse is terrible it does not make me 'ashamed of my gender'. It would be a heavy burden to bear the shame of all the sh*t males do.

[david_carnell]

Loz Wrote:

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> > I'm embarrassed to share a chromosone with

> them.

>

> I'm fairly sure you have at least one chromosome

> in common with every human. And who you choose to

> share you chromosomes with is, frankly, your own

> business...!

>

> But assuming you meant they are also male, I'm

> tempted to ask ... how do you know?

You think there are lots of woman posting rape jokes?

[a fish]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> > > I'm embarrassed to share a chromosone with

> > them.

> >

> > I'm fairly sure you have at least one

> chromosome

> > in common with every human. And who you choose

> to

> > share you chromosomes with is, frankly, your

> own

> > business...!

> >

> > But assuming you meant they are also male, I'm

> > tempted to ask ... how do you know?

>

> You think there are lots of woman posting rape

> jokes?

Sadly, I was recently told a rape joke by a woman. The other women in the group that evening gave her an incredibly hard time about it.

[Jeremy]

WTF is a "rape joke"? How is that even a thing?

[david_carnell]

It's not like a knock knock joke Jezza. There's no punchline.

It's men joking about rape. As if it were amusing. I'd say that was mysogyny and I'm not sure why Loz is so keen to try and play "grammar guru" on it.

[Loz]

I'll give an example from Frankie Boyle:

They?ve bought out a condom now for people with premature ejaculation and they?ve put an anesthetic in the lining that makes you numb and you can last for longer. Or, you can wear it inside out and you don?t have to wake anybody up!

There are jokes and there are jokes. Some people get upset about people using the word 'frape'.

[Loz]

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> if you examine the other posts these dickless

> little boys have made from the safety of their

> stinking bedrooms

See? You did it again. You are being the person you are complaining about.

[a fish]

Loz Wrote:

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> > if you examine the other posts these dickless

> > little boys have made from the safety of their

> > stinking bedrooms

>

> See? You did it again. You are being the person

> you are complaining about.

I did it on purpose. Or is it not obvious to you?

[a fish]

It's the prejudice it's still Ok to laugh about, misogyny. Compare it to the uproar caused when one moans or makes nasty jokes about fags and niggers.

[Loz]

a fish Wrote:

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> > > if you examine the other posts these dickless

> > > little boys have made from the safety of their

> > > stinking bedrooms

> >

> > See? You did it again. You are being the person

> > you are complaining about.

>

> I did it on purpose. Or is it not obvious to you?

But it rather undermines your own argument. Is that not obvious to you?

[maxxi]

a fish Wrote:

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> It's the prejudice it's still Ok to laugh about,

> misogyny. Compare it to the uproar caused when one

> moans or makes nasty jokes about fags and niggers.

Or the uproar caused by those unable to refer to gay or black people without using such words?

ETA: Y'see I'm sure you meant "jokes that use unacceptable terms like..." or maybe meant to put inverted commas around both words, but by not doing so you you can easily be misinterpreted; pedantry perhaps but there IS a case for the proper use of grammar, punctuation etc.

[a fish]

maxxi Wrote:

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> > It's the prejudice it's still Ok to laugh

> about,

> > misogyny. Compare it to the uproar caused when

> one

> > moans or makes nasty jokes about fags and

> niggers.

>

>

> Or the uproar caused by those unable to refer to

> gay or black people without using such words?

>

> ETA: Y'see I'm sure you meant "jokes that use

> unacceptable terms like..." or maybe meant to put

> inverted commas around both words, but by not

> doing so you you can easily be misinterpreted;

> pedantry perhaps but there IS a case for the

> proper use of grammar, punctuation etc.

I did think about apostrophes, or even asterisking some letters, but decided it'd have a better impact this way?

[*Bob*]

So the contestants make cakes and stuff - and then someone decides which ones are the nicest?

[a fish]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> So the contestants make cakes and stuff - and then

> someone decides which ones are the nicest?

Pretty much. It's got a quite engaging pair - Mel & Sue - presenting, and Paul Hollywood and Mary Berry judging. It's funny, interesting, undemanding, and endearingly British.

[*Bob*]

That's what I thought.

So.. From cakes to n*****s in only three pages. Good work people.

[a fish]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> That's what I thought.

>

> So.. From cakes to n*****s in only three pages.

> Good work people.

Via the incredibly nastiness of some people for whom a cake show can only be improved by aiming rape jokes, disgusting insults and wishes of insane violence at one of the competitors, and indeed her family. Good work, some unspeakable human beings.

[*Bob*]

Wise old Chinese proverb say 'If you're going to look in the toilet, you're going to find shit.'

[red devil]

Personally I'd like nothing better that to help Ruby ice her buns...

[a fish]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Wise old Chinese proverb say 'If you're going to

> look in the toilet, you're going to find shit.'

Erm, what, the internet? Twitter/FB/social media sites in general? GBBO? Erm, I'm lost.

[*Bob*]

The human race.

[maxxi]

red devil Wrote:

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> Personally I'd like nothing better that to help

> Ruby ice her buns...

If you mention cream horns now, you're off.

[Huggers]

is Bonyard still doing his pies. Ive p.m'd him?