Look out for the cyclist

[the man with a van]

Here we go again blame the hgv ban the hgv what if I said ban the cyclists at night or in rush hour the fact is cyclists need to take more care of themselves so stop at lights and have lights on there bikes

[davidk]

Mellors Wrote:

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> the man with a van Wrote:

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> most cyclists do not stop and traffic lights

> anyway

>

>

> What a load of bollocks. Some don't (and they are

> idiots, granted). Most do.

Yup, TFL also found that about 17% of cyclists RLJ. About the same proportion as motor vehicles, as it happens.

White van man: Did you exceed the speed limit at any point on your journey yesterday? Fiddle with your phone at any point? Yes and yes? Then pipe down about cyclists.

[the man with a van]

Really most do I would say you are wrong because I would say most do not because they do not get caught go over vauxhall bridge on the cycle super highway at 5 pm a raceway for cyclists that most do not stop f

act

[lexathon]

There are idiot hgv drivers on the roads, idiot van drivers, idiot car drivers and yes, plenty of idiot cyclists. We could all do a little better to be safer on the road. (I am a cyclist most mornings).

Let's try not to stereotype - nothing winds me up more than being cut up by a car/taxi/van/lorry and then being shouted at and asked how many red lights I've ignored today. I don't ignore red lights, but I can understand the frustration other road users have in seeing dozens of cyclists ignoring the lights. Believe it or not it upsets me too!

Please let's give everyone the benefit of the doubt and try and keep safe!

[Mellors]

I am lit up like a Christmas Tree, with a helmet and high viz jacket as well. I stop at every red light and position myself properly in the road.

Just this morning on my cycling commute into work I had:

1. Pedestrian didnt look my way and stepped out in front of me, nmearly bringing me off my bike (I swerved and stoipped).

2. A car not look and turn left across me (on the phone), also nearly knocking me off.

3. A van hooting his horm and hassling me when I was in the right filter lane coming up to a red light so he could race past me (to sit at the lights alongside me).

Unlucky? Maybe, but not unusual.

[davidk]

the man with a van Wrote:

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> Really most do I would say you are wrong because I

> would say most do not because they do not get

> caught go over vauxhall bridge on the cycle super

> highway at 5 pm a raceway for cyclists that most

> do not stop f

> act

The plural of anecdote is not fact.

[StraferJack]

Away from the confines of the EDF has anyone come across the forums/twitter accounts etc where mortorists make it plain what they wish they could do to cyclists?

Not pleasant. And suggests there is more going on out on the roads than just bad junctions/hi vis jackets

[the man with a van]

What so should I leave a gap of 200 metres in case the cyclist falls off his bike

[davidk]

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/traffic-note-8-cycling-red-lights.pdf

Here is the data. Actually, it's a little less than 17%.

These are FACTS, WVM. Actually observed facts.

[davidk]

You should leave an appropriate gap. It is your responsibility to not kill people.

You haven't answered my question. Did you exceed the speed limit yesterday? Use your phone at any point? Maybe run a red trying to nip through before it changes?

[the man with a van]

As a fact no I did not but why would I trust tfl they should all be sacked the f ing lot of them a waste of money and space

[davidk]

Liar.

[the man with a van]

How about a t shirt saying I hate cyclists try that

[davidk]

If you can get me one in high-viz yellow then we have a deal.

Dial back the hatred a little bit though, eh?

Perhaps you just find them irritating? Or you really understand their motivations and behaviours. No need for the hatin'.

[the man with a van]

Who are you calling me a liar was you with me yesterday no so get your facts right

[davidk]

Because I don't believe you.

[the man with a van]

Hi davidk I can hate who I like tfl really does anybody believe there figures

[Earl Aelfheah]

Despite this shocking cluster of deaths, it is wrong to think that cycling is a generally dangerous activity. On average for a UK cyclist, a serious injury corresponds to about 2 million km of cycling, or less than one in 1,000 annually. Cycling does not incur risks that are unusual by the standards of daily life, or that are outside the range of risks faced by motorists. What's more, there are significant health benefits to regular cycling.

[lexathon]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24987425

[StraferJack]

"driver of a white van" eh? hmmmm

http://t.co/eRe6xigbEF

[the man with a van]

What are you on about what all people in white vans are crazy speed and cut everybody up then I can say all cyclists are idiots who jump red lights wear headphones and think they are invincible and are above the law because they wre green cyclists

[davidk]

But... that's what you have been saying......?

[miga]

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[the man with a van]

Then miga I suggest you book a appointment at specsavers today to get your eyes checked because I know you are talking rubbish

[the man with a van]

Sorry but who said my man was white not me