Ghosts and paranormal activity in ED & PR

[Alan Medic]

taper Wrote:

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> I am very happy to give the OP the assurance that

> there is no such thing as paranormal activity.

Eh.....how do you know? If people at one won point quite reasonably assumed the Earth was flat, the liklihood is you would have been one of them. And it seems it's not.

[Sue]

taper Wrote:

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> I am very happy to give the OP the assurance that

> there is no such thing as paranormal activity.

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Evidence for your statement, please?

[Alan Medic]

That's the same as 'how do you know', Sue.

[taper]

How dare you. In a previous life I was Pythagoras.

Believe what you wish Louisa. But rest assured your fears of ghosties and ghoulies are not well founded. Pleased to hear you didn't spunk any cash on the psychic.

[taper]

Sue Wrote:

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> taper Wrote:

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> > I am very happy to give the OP the assurance

> that

> > there is no such thing as paranormal activity.

>

> xxxxxx

>

> Evidence for your statement, please?

The burden of evidence is on you and yours. V difficult to prove a negative.

[Salsaboy]

What? The Earth isn't flat??? When did that happen?

[Alan Medic]

I've no evidence I'm afraid.

[????]

Popper and Kuhn must be cheering from on high at the standard of scientific debate on the EDF

[Lynne]

If it was just a question of how many people had died in any place, then all hospitals should be so full of ghosts that it would be difficult to walk through the corridors. Like wading in mystic soup (not that I'm sure this is a reliable comparison, I haven't actually tried it)

lynne

[taper]

Perhaps Louisa's psychic can try whistling them up from the other side.

[????]

:)

[maxxi]

Get the wrong kind of psychic whistle and you'll be surrounded by the ghosts of a thousand dead dogs.

I don't think evidence is necessary - the faintly ethereal and slightly scatty are free to believe in ghosts just as the seriously deluded are to believe in god/gods etc.

Just as long as they don't start killing each other over the right approach to poltergeists and/or organise a fatwa against Ghostbusters for trivialising the issue.

[StraferJack]

I've seen some pretty odd things lately... just yesterday at 5:28pm I saw someone JUMP over a SHARK

[Sue]

taper Wrote:

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> The burden of evidence is on you and yours. V

> difficult to prove a negative.

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Indeed. So better not to make statements which you can't prove :)

Some people are unable to distinguish between certain colours. Other people (I knew one) can only see things in shades of black and white.

No amount of others telling them they were "wrong" could convince them that colour "existed", if they had a mind to doubt it.

Some people are sensitive to psychic phenomena which others can't perceive. Telling them that they are talking bollocks just because you are not so sensitive is closed-minded.

[Sue]

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> Popper and Kuhn must be cheering from on high at

> the standard of scientific debate on the EDF

xxxxxx

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it Kuhn who wrote about paradigm shifts?

Quite relevant to the discussion if so, I would say.

[red devil]

Sue Wrote:

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> Some people are sensitive to psychic phenomena

> which others can't perceive. Telling them that

> they are talking bollocks just because you are not

> so sensitive is closed-minded.

Maybe, but does a mad man always know he is mad?...

[????]

...er, and a big scientific paradigm shift was when people started believing in science not fairies/ghosts/goblins etc

[Sue]

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> ...er, and a big scientific paradigm shift was

> when people started believing in science not

> fairies/ghosts/goblins etc

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"Believing" in science???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradigm_shift

[Sue]

red devil Wrote:

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> Sue Wrote:

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> > Some people are sensitive to psychic phenomena

> > which others can't perceive. Telling them that

> > they are talking bollocks just because you are

> not

> > so sensitive is closed-minded.

>

> Maybe, but does a mad man always know he is

> mad?...

xxxxxx

I'm not talking about psychosis ....

ETA: Anyway, I'm not feeling well and I'm going to bed, so feel free to return to slagging off things you don't understand :)

[red devil]

Neither wes I Sue...get well soon

[taper]

Sue Wrote:

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> taper Wrote:

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> >

> > The burden of evidence is on you and yours. V

> > difficult to prove a negative.

>

> xxxxxx

>

> Indeed. So better not to make statements which you

> can't prove :)

>

> Some people are unable to distinguish between

> certain colours. Other people (I knew one) can

> only see things in shades of black and white.

>

> No amount of others telling them they were "wrong"

> could convince them that colour "existed", if they

> had a mind to doubt it.

>

> Some people are sensitive to psychic phenomena

> which others can't perceive. Telling them that

> they are talking bollocks just because you are not

> so sensitive is closed-minded.

And some people are sensitive to believing any old crap because they are feeble minded.

[voltore]

Amongst all the stories and "beliefs" on this thread, to my mind the least scientific statement made was to give 100% assurance that something doesn't exist.

A healthy state of agnosticism is probably best

[Alan Medic]

taper Wrote:

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> And some people are sensitive to believing any old

> crap because they are feeble minded.

And you really do write 'any old crap'. Just because you don't know somwthing doesn't mean it doesn't exist and I'm talking about anything. For feeble minded read closed mind in your case.

[taper]

Until evidence is produced, I won't accept woo. Nor woooooo for that matter.

[Alan Medic]

Who is asking you to accept anything apart from a possibility? Anyone can do that surely even if you think it unlikely. But to say something doesn't exist because you haven't experienced it is narrow minded imo.