Jump to content

Recommended Posts

  • 2 weeks later...

first mate Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> rahrahrah Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > keeping a dog in the city is generally

> antisocial

>

>

> That's a bit OTT. Many would argue the opposite.


OK. I casually overstated it. That said... my guess would be that a large number of people will have been kept awake by a barking dog at some point, trodden in their sh*t, or been intimidated by an aggressive canine whilst in a public place. Of course there are a majority of responsible owners, but unfortunately there is no restrictions on who can buy a dog.


Is it generally undesirable to have (at least large) dogs in a modern, densely populated city? It is a strange quirk of history / our culture that we don?t think it weird. Should someone want to keep a similar sized animal in a small flat, or terraced house (such as a pig, or a sheep) we?d probably question their good sense and it?s potential to cause a nuisance more freely.


That said, I wouldn?t want dogs banned, of course not. It would be good if people were generally a bit more conscious of how they affect others though. Most of the time, when a dog has jumped up at me whilst I?ve been out running or started licking my face as I sit in their owners home - I?ve been told things like ?he?s just saying hello?, or ?ah, he?s giving you a kiss?. Well no, no he is not giving me a kiss, he is being poorly controlled by someone who irrationally personifies their pet.


[Edited after reflecting on others comments]

rahrahrah Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> first mate Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > rahrahrah Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > keeping a dog in the city is generally

> > antisocial

> >

> >

> > That's a bit OTT. Many would argue the

> opposite.

>

> OK. I casually overstated it. That said... my

> guess would be that a large number of people will

> have been kept awake by a barking dog at some

> point, trodden in their sh*t, or been intimidated

> by an aggressive canine whilst in a public place.

> I would also bet that a significant number of

> ?urban dogs? don?t get two walks a day, don?t have

> enough company during working hours, or sufficient

> space to run around in. Of course there are a

> majority of responsible owners, but unfortunately

> there is no restrictions on who can buy a dog.

>

> Is is generally undesirable to have (at least

> large) dogs in a modern, densely populated city?

> It is a strange quirk of history / culture that we

> don?t think it weird. Should someone want to keep

> a similar sized animal in a small flat, or

> terraced house (such as a pig, or a sheep) we?d

> probably question their good sense and it?s

> potential to cause a nuisance, more freely.

>

> Dogs are bred to have characteristics we find

> pleasing and that are tradable (even where it

> leads to health problems for the animal). They're

> bought for many reasons (fashion, or

> companionship) but fundamentally for the owners'

> pleasure, no one elses. We all do things for the

> benefit of ourselves of course, sometimes causing

> inconvenience to others ? but let?s not pretend

> it?s anything else... It?s not socially beneficial

> to keep animals as pets.

>

> That said, I wouldn?t want dogs banned, of course

> not. It would be good if people were generally a

> bit more conscious of how they affect others

> though. Most of the time, when a dog has jumped up

> at me whilst I?ve been out running or started

> licking my face as I sit in their owners home -

> I?ve been told things like ?he?s just saying

> hello?, or ?ah, he?s giving you a kiss?. Well no,

> no he is not giving me a kiss, he is being poorly

> controlled by someone who irrationally personifies

> their pet.



This statement is up there amongst the most ridiculous things I've read for some time:


- Do you have any evidence to back up your "assumptions" on dogs getting enough walks or having enough room?


- How does our relationship with dogs have anything to do with "a strange quirk of history"?


- I was going to address all of the unfounded and subjective comments that you've posted but I can't be bothered...


Unbelievable!

Pets can appear to be beneficial to people's health, so saying it's not socially beneficial to keep pets is incorrect.


Benefits to people's health is always a benefit to society:


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130509163902.htm


http://www.docstoc.com/docs/48365516/THE-BENEFITS-OF-PET-OWNERSHIP


http://petsfortheelderly.org/research.html#5

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Nadia did a great job tidying up my very very overgrown yard. (See the before and after photos). I live in New Zealand and my tenants said a neighbour has been complaining about the out of control ivy. Nadia was easy to contact so over WhatsApp, managed to liaise between me and my tenants. Her quote was reasonable for the amount of work that needed doing, and the end result is great! She sent photos throughout so I could track progress. Would highly recommend her to others. 
    • My car was stolen a few months back from my driveway but I had a tracker and found it in a private car park in Lavender Hill close to the police station. I was lucky. The thieves hide it up against that eventuality. High spec cars are targeted I'm afraid. The way it was stolen required the thieves to wire in their own computer accessing a front light (which had had a metal sheet welded across which they prised off). They had searched for a tracker but not found it. They also had to cut away a steering wheel lock. They had to come well tooled up and briefed to do what they did. Beating them off is non trivial. As I said, them not finding my tracker was just lucky. 
    • Been with The Gardens now for around 30 years and very rarely do I have a problem. I went in to collect a form and mentioned that my leg was hurting and hot- was seen immediately by the Practice nurse who then arranged an appointment on the Saturday with the Extra care service at TJ Centre where I saw a doctor, who then sent me off to Kings for further tests.. I recently booked a flu jab but appointment is in 2 weeks. 
    • Have used Milk and More for years. When the price went up we cancelled a couple of pints but we still have 8 pints a week. If we are expecting family etc we buy from Sainsburys to top up. We kept on with M & M as if weather bad we could order extra stuff from them to save us a trip to Sainsburys Local. Also gives employment to our milkman.
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...