Media manipulation Mark Duggan

[bodsier]

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/photo-of-mark-duggan-at-daughters-funeral-cropped-to-paint-him-as-a-gangster/

[Loz]

Can we have a new section where lazy people just post links to outside articles with absolutely no comment attached? We could call it 'Reddit'.

[bodsier]

Sometimes the information speaks for itself. It's open for discussion, so you could discuss it if you choose. Or you could just post 'reddit'. It's entirely up to you:)

[Loz]

Reddit.

[bodsier]

Don't appreciate you calling me lazy loz.... You don't know me.

[Loz]

OK... people who make lazy posts, then.

[bodsier]

I don't think it needs much explanation really. You may well have seen the images of Mark Dugan in the media,I doubt that many saw this one.. I don't think it needs a comment.

[Otta]

They've taken a clear photo of him that was available to them, and they've cropped it to concentrate on his head. It wouldn't surprise me if they'd chosen the most "gangsta" image they could, but at the end of the day, he was dodgy.

[bodsier]

How do you know otta? And in what way was he dodgy? Isn't that the kind of sentiment that the media intended to portray. The question is did this portrayal serve as part of a cover up for police error? Where is the evidence to back up your suggestion?

[Otta]

He had a gun, that's dodgy in my book.

That's not to say he should have been shot dead, but if he hadn't been dodgy a police firearms team wouldn't have been watching him in the first place.

The police messed up and then disgracefully tried ro cover it up and briefed media before the family. But let's not pretend he was sweet and innocent.

[bodsier]

I think it has been established that he did not have a gun. He had a mobile phone in his hand when he was shot. A gun was found seven metres away behind a fence without his finger prints in them. The police did not see an gun exchange take place. The cab windows were not and I believe could not be opened. Neither cab driver nor the police saw him throw the gun...and the eye witness video footage does not correspond with the police and claim that he threw the gun over the fence. As far as I understand it..innocent until proven guilty isn't it. Surely if he was that dodgy they could at least have presented more conclusive evidence than they have managed so far.

[Otta]

Fine, he was an angel. The police shot him because they didn't like the cut off his jib.

Whatever.

[Otta]

Just to clarify, I am not claiming he had a gun in his hand when he was shot, nor am I claiming the police jave handled the whole thing correctly.

But equally claims that he was "executed" are a nonsense.

[bodsier]

'Executed, You words not mine...I was simply showing the media manipulation involved. Some of us fell for it..neither of us know the full details, I chose not to comment on what I don't have full knowledge of....I would love to have been in the courts throughout the trial, I find it intriguing that the outcome was lawful killing.

[Otta]

His family's word actually.

[Jeremy]

They cropped the photo to show just his face and shoulders? Clear evidence of a conspiracy.

[DaveR]

"I think it has been established that he did not have a gun."

Really? The inquest jury were asked:

"Did Mr Duggan have the gun with him in the taxi immediately before the

stop?"

They answered unanimously 'yes'.

http://dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk/docs/Jurys_Determination_and_Conclusion(1).pdf

[TE44]

bodsier, link to public records, inquest into the shooting of Mark Duggan.

http://dugganinquest.independent.gov.uk/evidence.htm

[bodsier]

Thank you te44 for the link...It will make an interesting read.