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I fought it was because the numbers didn't add up. There was still more cars than spaces, as the effect of the station did not seem to be a large causal factor. The CPZ would also have lessened the total number of spaces and then charged everyone ?90+ a year without fixing the problem. I suspect only St Francis Place and maybe Melbourne Grove would have benefited (being the only ones with a commuter parking issue), but the knock on effects would have effected load of streets as it pushed parking around.

Agree with Loz. I fought the CPZ because I'd done the sums on the number of cars in my street, and the proposed layout of parking bays, and knowing who would or would not cough up, we were all* going to be ?90 down and no better off.


*Not me though as I have off street parking - (but the CPZ would have put a double yellow line across the frontage so no visitors could park across my driveway!)

But you can ask Southwark to reserve space by suspending parking. For genuine reasons, such as moving, large deliveries, funerals etc, you can apply here.....


http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/473/guide_to_parking/2818/suspension_of_parking_bays/1


There really is no reason for people to put out bins for these things, and if you do put out a bin, drivers are under no obligation to respect that.

In response to everyone who's replied. I was well within my rights to cordon off this particular spot because as I said before, on my street there genuinely is this unwritten rule about parking. I know all my neighbours fairly well and we have quite a narrow road here so it's not used as a cut through or place to park for outsiders (very very rarely). In response to SJ, I moved my car quite a distance (three streets away) about an hour before the plumber told us he would be coming. I did this because rather than just move my car when he arrives, I knew it would take a while for me to find a space, and park up and walk back again etc. very long winded so I took to the exceptional measure of reserving my usual 'spot' with a wheelie bin. Stupidly I forgot to put a note on the bin (just wasn't thinking). And as it was all last minute I didn't think to call the council or anything else for that matter just presumed it wouldn't be an issue, how wrong was I? I agree with everyone who's mentioned the CPZ. Great idea. I'd be more than happy to contribute towards one. The plumber turned up 20 minutes later than planned and was forced to park a fair bit away, I had to apologise for the parking situation and the ignorant RED FORD FIESTA driver.


Louisa.

I think reserving a spot with a bin is ignorant. With a note on it, it would be different. It's your own fault you just weren't thinking.


You don't actually know why the RED FORD FIESTA driver actually took the spot. They could have been on a mercy mission or something of equal importance to your need at the time.

AM it's not ignorant if it's for a justifiable reason! what's ignorant is being the person who would physically remove a bin that's clearly been put in place to reserve a space for any number of reasons. This person would have known this, and what's all the more infuriating is this person isn't even a resident! Bloody cheek I say. And even if they did have an emergency, I reserved the space first! therefore it was my space. I don't understand why no one can appreciate this point.


Louisa.

I SO don't want to revive the views on CPZ as I know it has been done to death previously, and it will be resurrected when the issue is raised again. BUT, as someone who has LIVED THE CPZ! [i moved from St Albans where it is well and truly established], I just want to say one thing... It is the spawn of the devil!!

It will occupy your thinking each and every day, when you are in your car all the way home from work...its not 'at last, I will be able to park outside my house', it will be...everyone is arriving home about now, will there be any spaces left? You will feel entitled as you have paid good money but that means nothing. You will be issued with a 'limited' number of visitors permits [at a cost] and, depending on how close you are to the centre of the CPZ, will be restricted to the number of hours they can stay for. [between 1 and 4]. Someone drops by for 5 minutes and you spend most of it looking out of the window, checking for wardens . If you can see the road, that is. When you have used up your allocation of visitor permits you will have to write to the council to plead why you should have more. [What business is it of theirs?] Every day your streets will be patrolled by Gestapo-looking wardens [ours were ready at the corner of the street at 7.55am every Sat morning] and they were a permanent presence, thus adding a negative vibe to the street. Every day but Sunday.

It might cost you for the permit but when the cleaning lady comes, the man to fix the boiler, babysitter, etc etc, you have to be on top of the visitor permits. I was caught a number of times...returning home in the middle of the night after visiting ill parents, parked with the intention of moving before the wardens came, slept in,..?68. Friends staying over and parking on double yellow til morning, forgot and another ?68, cleaning lady stays longer, another ?68. Believe me, you will spend more time thinking about CPZ than you realise. renewing your permit...you must have proof of ownership of car, utility bill from the last 3 mths, [no photocopy],I.D, previous permit, etc. The biggest negative is the permanent presence of dour looking wardens [no matter how pleasant I might be to them, they get a lot of stick] and it made the happy neighbourhood I lived in feel like a warden-controlled state. And, once established, they changed NOTHING, despite our many objections, including the timing [we were .5 mile from city centre but had an 8am to 8pm restriction].

SO...sorry for the knee-jerk response but, after 14mths back in ED, the scars remain.

And I think its fair to say that the point of the CPZ was not to provide a better system for people to park outside their house but to prevent commuters, and such, from parking there for long periods of time.

Sorry Louisa, I feel like I have burst your bubble.

Ha ha ha...you actually believe in your own grandiose scheme, and i'm intrigued by the whole possession of space thing


And now someone's popped your little bubble, you're exasperated but too belligerent to put your hands up and say "OMG, what was i thinking with the bin", which is even funnier


Still, now you're clear about the boundaries and CPZ, you can mentally roll back your land grab and join the masses


It's way classier and free or FREE if that helps

Seabag what are you rambling on about? Who was that point aimed at?


If it was me then ermm no-one has popped anyone's bubble. What a bizarre comment. Aren't you the one who plays childish games with your neighbour? How old are you? That sure is noble of you. And to be honest, makes you look like a first prize lemon, which you can't even see, which to use your phrase "is even funnier". Yawn. There will be no land grab roll back, this was a one off thing I did for an emergency boiler repair, and not some pathetic ongoing dispute with a neighbour just because you have half a dozen motor vehicles.


Louisa.

Louisa Wrote:

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what's ignorant is being the person who

> would physically remove a bin that's clearly been

> put in place to reserve a space for any number of

> reasons.

As has been pointed out thus far. You cannot legally 'reserve' any space on the public highway by putting your bin there


> This person would have known this, and

> what's all the more infuriating is this person

> isn't even a resident!

Of the UK ?


> Bloody cheek I say. And

> even if they did have an emergency, I reserved the

> space first! therefore it was my space.

Wrong again, see above. Plus your boiler breaking down was an inconvenience, not an emergency, unless it was a life and death situation. High drama at its best I'd say


> I don't

> understand why no one can appreciate this point.


Maybe all the above will clear up your last point

>

> Louisa.

PokerTime Wrote:

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> But you can ask Southwark to reserve space by

> suspending parking. For genuine reasons, such as

> moving, large deliveries, funerals etc, you can

> apply here.....

>

> http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/473/guide_to_park

> ing/2818/suspension_of_parking_bays/1

>

> There really is no reason for people to put out

> bins for these things, and if you do put out a

> bin, drivers are under no obligation to respect

> that.



So, PokerTime,drivers are under no obligation to respect a funeral. What a sad indictment of the society we now find ourselves living in.

What I wrote was that parking can be reserved for things like funerals by applying to the council. And that legally no space can be reserved by placing a bin on it (whatever the reason). Those are the facts. What any driver might do or not do morally is up to them, but there is no requirement under the law for a driver to respond to a bin. Anyway, we are not talking about a funeral here. We are talking about someone throwing a hissy fit because a plumber couldn't park directly outside their home. Like I said above, did said plumber not attend the job as a result? No...he used his legs like many people do every day.

PokerTime, that is the point, regardless of what the law says, there is a moral duty by people to respect the fact another road user/resident has for whatever reason had to take the urgent step to reserve a space outside their property. The fact someone has the audacity to come along, MOVE a bin to one side and path their car in its place shows the ultimate in complete disregard for someone else. Yes the plumber made it round, but he was inconvenienced as was I, both of us had other plans which were out back due to the poor plumber being forced to park a while away. Btw I'm not throwing a hissy fit, I'm simply exposing yet another ignorant non-resident of my street who believes they can flout the 'law of respectability' by stealing a reserved space.


Louisa.

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