Pop ups....

[MrBen]

Question: now that pop up restaurants and shops etc are everywhere. Is this just another passing fad or is the creative use of retail space here to stay?

[Jeremy]

Bit of both, I'd say. It makes perfect sense to make use of retail/commercial space which is "between tenants" for whatever reason. But I'm pretty sure that all this street food and pop-up business is a fad (albeit a fun one) which is bound to fade away at some point.

There certainly seems to be quite a bit of it in Peckham right now.

[Seabag]

As long as it stays fresh and slightly rough around the edges, then i'm hoping it's an ongoing thing. Went to an event (smoke & dram ) in a steel yard in Vauxhall a few weeks ago. The yard operates Mon-Fri as a manufacturing unit. Come Fri afternoon they pack away everything, and the place turns into a bar/restaurant for Fri-Sun.

Went to Brick Brewery Peckham on Saturday with Carnell & Co , is that a pop-up ?

Nice anyway

[????]

Retail space for creative use is likely to increase so there will be more 'supply'

Demand.....A fad Jeremy, really?

Festivals, outdoor events, streetmarkets have grown massively big 'customers'People are used to it, people have less time to fit multiple activities in, trends spraed downwards, there's been 'pop up' food of sorts for years when demand demanded it - outdoor sports, late night kebab vans/chip vans/, roadsie trailers...even Mr Whippy is a version in away :) ; but the food and variety available has expanded to match change in tastes.

The ultra trendyness may go but a fad? You're joking, it's here to stay.

[Jeremy]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Went to Brick Brewery Peckham on Saturday with Carnell & Co , is that a pop-up ?

No I don't think so. Although from what I've seen, I doubt it fits into the plans for redevelopment (which would be a shame... premises and location are spot on)

[vgrant]

I would say the nascent boom in popups have to more to about gentrification, distoprtion of the retail market stock and the electronic commodification of experience and discovery.Sure the food is good though.

[vgrant]

lol

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*Moves on*

[MrBen]

If it brings fresh new offerings,greater local choice and helps micro start ups get cheap space and some exposure without the usual tie ins..I'm all for it. But from a trend perspective I'm a bit over people trumpeting "pop up!!" like it's wildly new when it's already old hat. Instead I'd just like it to quietly become the norm.

[BECKENHAM CENTRAL]

It allows people who want to start their own business the ability to trial it on the high street. Some stick, some fail, but it's lower risk and good for high streets, good for businesses, good for the economy and good for landlords and good for high streets. Oh, sorry, I already said it was good for high streets. Damn, done it again.

[Jeremy]

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> A fad Jeremy, really?

You don't think so? When I see something catch on at the rate the whole recent hipster/foodie thing has... food markets, supper clubs, pop-ups, trendy burger joints, etc... surely anything which can become a phenomenon so quickly is inherently faddish to a certain extent? And I don't mean that in a negative way. Our culinary landscape has been irreversibly changed.

Will burger vans and taco stands still be attracting crowds of trendy 20-somethings in ten years time? Seems unlikely.

[MrBen]

You did predict that Rye Lane wouldn't gentrify any time soon though Jeremy....

Thats the last time I follow any one of your predictions. :-)

[Jeremy]

Well when I walked down Rye Lane on Sunday it didn't feel very gentrified!

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Jeremy Wrote:

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> Will burger vans and taco stands still be

> attracting crowds of trendy 20-somethings in ten

> years time? Seems unlikely.

No because then they will be mid 30s parents waxing nostalgic about these places and paying over the odds to eat the same shit indoors - "Isn't it nice to have a sit down?" - while the new 20 somethings eat bowls of Peruvian 'Chonta' palm-pasta from converted wheelbarrows and Alaskan Moose nuggets in tundra wraps from 50s retro ice-cream vans.

[edcam]

Rye Lane? Gentrified? Come now.

[MrBen]

Not past tense. Present. Jeremy knows what Im talking about.The first wave of "new Peckham" has already started to take over the odd lease on Rye Lane. As Woodrot once said so brilliantly....

"They have arrived".

[Jeremy]

The first wave has taken me by surprise, admittedly. But with hindight, it shouldn't have done. But actual proper gentrification... some way off, if it ever happens at all.

[ruffers]

Isn't the fad just the name pop up. There's been short term shop lets for as long as I remember, often with geezers selling dodgy perfume market stall style or improbably cheap clothes. It's just a new name. Or new clothes..